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Kent Hovind moved to "Hell" - Supermax prison in Colorado

Not that I enjoy defending Hovind, but that's a bit of selective bolding in the OP, isn't it? He was holding Bible studies > 5 people, the prison told him he couldn't hold gatherings of more than 5 people, so he continued holding the Bible studies with only 3-4 people present. Maybe he was going out of his way to flaunt the rules of the prison, but the quote doesn't support that contention.
 
Someone needs to remind Kent that he's not suffering the slings and arrows of Satan, but the very real punishment he's due for committing fraud.

So, he's working on another degree? Good for him. Oh, wait. It's not from an accredited institution of higher learning? Why the **** is he bothering?

Oh, right. It's information that Satan doesn't want released to the world. Probably along the same line as what that craptard liar Harold Camping spewed to the rest of us.

Here's a thought for Dr. Dino: When and if he offers anything resembling a FACT, that's when I might take a little time to listen. Otherwise, he can save his breath and my bandwidth.
 
Someone needs to remind Kent that he's not suffering the slings and arrows of Satan, but the very real punishment he's due for committing fraud.

Yes, but usually you don't send fraudsters sent to a supermax. Yes, apart from being a fraudster, he is a total jerk, but still, if that was punishable...
 
Not that I enjoy defending Hovind, but that's a bit of selective bolding in the OP, isn't it? He was holding Bible studies > 5 people, the prison told him he couldn't hold gatherings of more than 5 people, so he continued holding the Bible studies with only 3-4 people present. Maybe he was going out of his way to flaunt the rules of the prison, but the quote doesn't support that contention.

His assertion that he could not meet with a single inmate to talk about the Bible does sound suspicious. If it were true it would seem to be quite the First Amendment violation. But to be clear, if Kent Hovind told me that January is followed by February, I would check a calendar before agreeing with him.

As for the alleged (but believable) mail claims, I would advise Mr. Hovind to not attribute too much to Satan; there are a buttload of prisons around the country in which guards **** with people's mail.
 
Yes, but usually you don't send fraudsters sent to a supermax. Yes, apart from being a fraudster, he is a total jerk, but still, if that was punishable...

Son, go read the rest of the thread. He was sent to a minimum security adjunct facility located near the Supermax and under it's administration.
 
Not that I enjoy defending Hovind, but that's a bit of selective bolding in the OP, isn't it? He was holding Bible studies > 5 people, the prison told him he couldn't hold gatherings of more than 5 people, so he continued holding the Bible studies with only 3-4 people present. Maybe he was going out of his way to flaunt the rules of the prison, but the quote doesn't support that contention.

How so? I doubt Hovind's version of events based on Hovind and his supporters having a long history of not telling his audience the truth about his scientific and legal claims. The parts quoted:

Brother Hovind got in trouble with the chaplain in the federal prison where he was previously held. The chaplain actually tried to get Dr. Hovind in trouble on more than one occasion. And the chaplain told him to stop holding Bible studies. The chaplain called them “unauthorized meetings.” Dr. Hovind was following the rules that no more than 5 men could meet together. He kept holding the Bible studies (only with 3-4 others at a time) and witnessing to his fellow inmates whenever he could.

1) All we have is a second hand quote from someone who has defended Hovind's false claims, criminal activity and refers to him as "Dr Hovind" (despite his doctorate being from a diploma mill).
2) We have no statement from the chaplain or prison about Hovind being moved.
3) Even if we accept a Hovind defenders' account, the bolding shows he was "told" to do something but didn't obey orders. The bolding: Hovind was "TOLD TO STOP HOLDING BIBLE STUDIES" and "KEPT HOLDING BIBLE STUDIES."
4) Hovind has previously made postings claiming to be the victim by lying about his case. As a result, we should be skeptical of his claims and judge the facts without Hovind or his defenders excuses' for his behavior. For example:


Hovind said:
Q: What were the accusations against Dr. Hovind and what was his defense?

A:

1. Failure to withhold employee-related taxes:

Explanation:
From the start of the ministry, Dr. Hovind sought legal counsel on the proper way to compensate those who would serve with him in the ministry. He was told by several attorneys that as a 508 organization, CSE was not required to withhold taxes and that each person serving would be responsible for paying their own income taxes. For seventeen years the ministry operated without incident, and no notice was ever given to CSE or Dr. Hovind that the IRS wanted any changes made on this issue until the day the charges were brought.
From: http://www.kenthovindblog.com/?page_id=391

According to the Appeal Court that reviewed his claims:

Appeals Court said:
Sufficient evidence establishes that Kent failed to collect or pay withholding taxes. Kent argues that the government failed to prove that he acted willfully absent evidence that Kent knew of the specific statutes that required him to collect and pay withholding taxes, but that argument fails. ...

The government proved that Kent knew the tax laws required the collection and payment of withholding taxes, but he refused to comply. Employees of Evangelism Enterprises, peers, and legal counsel testified that Kent disputed the authority of the Internal Revenue Service based on the separation of the church and state, debated the interpretation and application of the withholding requirements, and intentionally characterized Evangelism Enterprises as a “church” and his employees as “missionaries” to avoid tax obligations. Kent had opined to attorney David Gibbs that he was “smarter” than other church officials who had forfeited real property after they refused to collect or pay withholding taxes.
Court ruling: http://www.ca11.uscourts.gov/unpub/ops/200710090.pdf

The people who the Hovinds called "lawyers," who advised him on taxes, are not and never have been lawyers. The person behind his trust scam is Glen Stoll who is listed as "director of the legal firm, Remedies at Law." They have no law degree nor have passed the bar and have been in serious legal trouble for their claims. You can do some internet searching for more information.

Hovind said:
2. Structuring cash transactions in order to evade bank reporting requirements:

Explanation:
Up until 2003, CSE withdrew cash in order to compensate those who served at CSE. There was no knowledge of bank secrecy laws and never any intention of evading Internal Revenue Service regulations.
From: http://www.kenthovindblog.com/?page_id=391

According to the Court:

Appeals Court said:
The government also proved that the Hovinds structured their cash withdrawals to avoid federal reporting requirements. Although the Hovinds challenge the validity of their convictions on the ground that the statute does not penalize transactions below $10,000, this interpretation does not comport with the language of the statute. Congress enacted Section 5324(a)(3) to penalize “any transaction” structured to “avoid triggering [a] bank’s duty to file a [Currency Transaction Report] in the first place.” Phipps, 81 F.3d at 1059–60. By its plain language, the statute prohibits transactions of less than $10,000 that are intended to evade reporting requirements. Id. at 1060–61. That reading comports with the regulations that define structuring to penalize cash transactions designed “in any manner, . . . including transactions . . . below $10,000 . . . for the purpose of evading the reporting requirements . . . .” 31 C.F.R. § 103.11(gg).

Evidence established that Kent and Jo Hovind structured cash transactions with knowledge of, and the intent to avoid, reporting of those transactions by AmSouth Bank. See United States v. MacPherson, 424 F.3d 183, 189 (2d Cir. 2005); United States v. Cassano, 371 F.3d 868, 878 (7th Cir. 2004). A former employee of Evangelism Enterprises, Brian Popp, testified that Kent knew of and complained about the bank reporting requirements and that Jo, often at Kent’s direction, regularly obtained cash to pay employees of the organization. Other employees and associates of Kent testified that the Hovinds openly disputed the validity of the tax laws. Various documents established that Jo withdrew cash in increments of $9500 and $9600 from AmSouth Bank as often as four or five times a month, for a total of 45 transactions between July 2001 and August 2002.
Court ruling: http://www.ca11.uscourts.gov/unpub/ops/200710090.pdf


You can read some of the employees testimony and notes left by Jo Hovind in the press, which directly contradict Kent Hovind's claims.

Hovind said:
3. Threatening and impeding the investigation of a government agency:

Explanation:
Because Dr. Hovind filed papers questioning actions of the IRS, which was his legal right, he was charged with “impeding” the agency. They also believed he “threatened agents with bodily harm” by praying for those involved on public radio.
From: http://www.kenthovindblog.com/?page_id=391

According to the Court:
Appeals Court said:
Substantial evidence established that Kent obstructed investigation of his tax offenses. A person is guilty of obstructing the administration of tax laws if he “corruptly” acts to “intimidate or impede any officer” or to “obstruct[], impede, or endeavors to obstruct or impede, the due administration” of the tax laws. Kent filed complaints and sued agents of the Internal Revenue Service and instituted legal proceedings to circumvent the lawful seizure of his assets. This evidence supports the finding of the jury that Kent intended to impede agents of the Revenue Service in their efforts to investigate and prosecute Kent’s violations of the tax laws.
Court ruling: http://www.ca11.uscourts.gov/unpub/ops/200710090.pdf


Thus, Kent Hovind's claims are half-truths, complete lies or red herrings. Any information he passed on to his supporters, which is then repeated online should be scrunitized and the crux of the issues should be the focus on any analysis rather than any excuses he gives.
 
Or it could simply be sheer stupidity. Just a thought.

Please don't insult the stupid. </sarcasm>

This cretin is cunning as a fox. He just ran up against a porcupine (US Government) and lost.
 
I am amazed that he is only "nearly finished" with his next degree. How long can it take you to write "God is great, money enclosed, please hide next certification of doctorate in comparative fairy tale studies religious ministering in cake and send package to my cell."

And he did have money, didn't he? I am sure he could have bought proper titles as well, no?

He's got family and a few faithful to squeeze.
 
Hovind has been moved by the Federal Bureau of Prisons to Federal Correctional Institution at Berlin, New Hampshire.

According to Paul Hansen:

I received word earlier today that Dr. Hovind is out of the "hole" or lockdown. Tomorrow, Friday November 16 Dr. Hovind will be allowed to resume answering e-mails. It was 10 days Dr. Hovind was in lockdown.

Two months ago Hovind wrote about his in prison problems:
Kent Hovind said:
1. ... When I asked Mrs. Grissini in the mail room what the problem was, she said I was running a business and I could not get the blanks sent in but I could make copies here. ...

2. Several men here are studying the Bible . . . I told him I cannot receive multiple copies of the same book but he could send it to the other guys with a note to give it to me when they are done so I can pass them around. He sent them and the mail room rejected them and called the men in to threaten them with shots. He told me this was "circumventing the mail." ... I do not sell anything or run a business in any way that I know of.

3. As I actively fight to get my case overturned many people who have known me for years and love the creation ministry I began in 1989 have offered to help. The Church Ministry trustee is Paul Hansen in Omaha and we correspond often on legal issues involving my case and the Church Ministry property.
...

http://www.2peter3.com/Blogs/legal dept.pdf

Hovind explains:
Kent Hovind said:
She can also tell you how to get my latest 3 book series. Of the 50+ books I have written in my life I don't know of any that blessed me personally as I wrote it and as I re-read it more than this series!
From: http://www.2peter3.com/Blogs/Fall Update.pdf

Paul Hansen is selling Kent Hovind's prison "book" writings:
http://www.2peter3.com/book_WOE.html

Kent Hovind writes about other prisoners thinking he is a "snitch:"

Kent Hovind said:
A fellow inmate came in and told me that there was a I rumor in our dorm that I had snitched on Jeff and got him locked up! I have no idea what he got locked up for. He goes home in about 40 days. I've done nothing but good to him and for him since he came here (including getting him lots of mail and new friends). I would never snitch on anyone unless they were planning to kill or injure someone and even then I would probably talk to them first.
From: http://www.2peter3.com/Blogs/A Day at Edgefield Prison Camp.pdf

This probably wasn't wise of Hovind to tell the prison:
Kent Hovind said:
I will continue doing everything in my power to completely shut down the entire American prison system. Then none of us will need to come to work here at all and I won’t be late.
...
Short of shutting it down, I will continue to push for legislation to scale back the prison system dramatically!
...
PPS. As for the really BIG Picture… we will all and face God one day. No one will be late that day. If you are not 100% sure you are ready for that meeting. Please check www.DRDINO.com or www.livingwaters.com for “How to Be Saved.”
From: http://www.2peter3.com/Blogs/The Blanket.pdf
 
Nearly ten years later, Hovind has been unsuccessful in "shutting down the entire American prison system." America's favorite doctoral thesis writer is going to jail for battering his ex-girlfriend.

Hovind sentence to one year, will serve 30 days in jail for domestic violence.

Domestic abuser, creator of dinosaur Jesus theme parks, dissector of bible verses on YouTube. Documentary audio producer recording his own assault of his girlfriend (google drive link)
Is there nothing this man can't do?
 
Nearly ten years later, Hovind has been unsuccessful in "shutting down the entire American prison system." America's favorite doctoral thesis writer is going to jail for battering his ex-girlfriend.

Hovind sentence to one year, will serve 30 days in jail for domestic violence.

Domestic abuser, creator of dinosaur Jesus theme parks, dissector of bible verses on YouTube. Documentary audio producer recording his own assault of his girlfriend (google drive link)
Is there nothing this man can't do?

Probably has God's help.

Matthew 19:26 “With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”
 

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