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Ken Starr dead

Good riddance. He was an evil little pious hypocrite who specialized in supporting violence against women. He’s probably in Hell now; maybe he’ll learn something there.
 
Stacyhs said:
Evidence that the Clintons are 'corrupt'? The GOP has attempted for decades with investigation after investigation to find dirt on them and all they could come up with was "Bill lied about having oral sex". But they did a masterful job in convincing conservatives like you that the Clintons are the spawn of the devil.
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Of course no thread about Starr could completely distance itself from Clinton apologism. Around here, anyway. After all, once we strip through the other BS, that is why Dems hate him the most...for putting a spotlight on the corrupt and lying Clintons.

As I say, that was his greatest gift to politics, imo. A gift that pays dividends to this day.
 
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Warp12 said:
Of course no thread about Starr could completely distance itself from Clinton apologism. Around here, anyway. After all, once we strip through the other BS, that is why Dems hate him the most...for putting a spotlight on the corrupt and lying Clintons.

As I say, that was his greatest gift to politics, imo.
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Still waiting to hear about this supposed "Clinton corruption" he exposed.

Why haven't you given the previous poster a response?

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Warp12 said:
Of course no thread about Starr could completely distance itself from Clinton apologism. Around here, anyway. After all, once we strip through the other BS, that is why Dems hate him the most...for putting a spotlight on the corrupt and lying Clintons.

As I say, that was his greatest gift to politics, imo. A gift that pays dividends to this day.
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No evidence then? I don’t give a flying **** about any Clinton. Merely want to see you support your fantasy.
 
Segnosaur said:
Still waiting to hear about this supposed "Clinton corruption" he exposed.

Why haven't you given the previous poster a response?

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Steve said:
No evidence then? I don’t give a flying **** about any Clinton. Merely want to see you support your fantasy.
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This isn't a thread where I try to convince anyone that water is wet. That is a fruitless exercise. I am simply expressing my appreciation for what Starr accomplished. Myself, and many others, are appreciative of his work regarding the Clintons.

Outside of that, I don't care too much about what he did politically. I don't see any reason to dance on his grave, that is for certain.
 
Warp12 said:
This isn't a thread where I try to convince anyone that water is wet. That is a fruitless exercise. I am simply expressing my appreciation for what Starr accomplished. Myself, and many others, are appreciative of his work regarding the Clintons.
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You are a faithful, true believer.
 
Warp12 said:
This isn't a thread where I try to convince anyone that water is wet. That is a fruitless exercise. I am simply expressing my appreciation for what Starr accomplished. Myself, and many others, are appreciative of his work regarding the Clintons.

Outside of that, I don't care too much about what he did politically. I don't see any reason to dance on his grave, that is for certain.
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Your appreciation is misplaced. Starr did not do what you claim he did.
 
Warp12 said:
Of course no thread about Starr could completely distance itself from Clinton apologism. Around here, anyway. After all, once we strip through the other BS, that is why Dems hate him the most...for putting a spotlight on the corrupt and lying Clintons.

As I say, that was his greatest gift to politics, imo. A gift that pays dividends to this day.
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One can think that Bill Clinton was a philandering ******* and think that Ken Starr was a political hack who tried to oust a democratically elected president on ******** charges purely out of party partisanship.

As others have noted, Ken Starr couldn't uncover any corruption. That's why he set that pathetic trap about a blowjob.

Do you have any actual evidence of illegal activities involving either Clinton uncovered by Ken State's "spotlight"? Or is this a "trust your feelings" thing?
 
Warp12 said:
This isn't a thread where I try to convince anyone that water is wet. That is a fruitless exercise. I am simply expressing my appreciation for what Starr accomplished. Myself, and many others, are appreciative of his work regarding the Clintons.

Outside of that, I don't care too much about what he did politically. I don't see any reason to dance on his grave, that is for certain.
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You're reminding me a lot of Bubba's recent (and final) claim about the CDC.
 
Foster Zygote said:
One can think that Bill Clinton was a philandering ******* and think that Ken Starr was a political hack who tried to oust a democratically elected president on ******** charges purely out of party partisanship.

As others have noted, Ken Starr couldn't uncover any corruption. That's why he set that pathetic trap about a blowjob.

Do you have any actual evidence of illegal activities involving either Clinton uncovered by Ken State's "spotlight"? Or is this a "trust your feelings" thing?
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Even if all he did was present the evidence against Bill, see him impeached on perjury and obstruction charges, bring further to light the Paula Jones situation (#shetoo), and expose the corruption "surrounding" the Clintons with Whitewater...that is good enough for me.
 
Warp12 said:
Even if all he did was present the evidence against Bill, see him impeached on perjury and obstruction charges, bring further to light the Paula Jones situation (#shetoo), and expose the corruption "surrounding" the Clintons with Whitewater...that is good enough for me.
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Again, not demonstrated.

Are we to assume your comments are just political and not factual?
 
We could talk about Ken Starr's extra-marital affair among other things that make Ken very much a flawed human being. However lets leave that aside for the time being.

I am absolutely puzzled by the idea that he should be appreciated for putting a spotlight on the corruption of the Clintons. The Clintons have both been investigated over and over again by not just Kenneth Starr but by others and what has been found, aside from the blowjob stuff, is literally nothing showing corruption. So why should anyone appreciate another failure among many? In the truly serious stuff involving Whitewater Starr found nothing against the Clintons, or any matter related to actual corruption. Instead we got this absolutely farcical blowjob crap. Outside of the U.S., and in I would think, this of course only occasioned laughter - this is a scandal?! Of course some of the more pious and partisan would feed on this nonsense while the rest of us laughed at the absurdity.

And if you have read, seen any interviews, with Monica Lewinsky or read anything by her concerning Kenneth Starr you find out very quickly that if she has a low opinion of William Clinton her feelings about Kenneth Starr and Linda Tripp are much, much lower.
 
Warp12 said:
and expose the corruption "surrounding" the Clintons with Whitewater...that is good enough for me.
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arayder said:
Again, not demonstrated.
Are we to assume your comments are just political and not factual?
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What are you talking about, lol?

And then the Whitewater investigation begins, and a three-judge panel picks him to be the independent counsel to investigate Bill Clinton's Whitewater dealings, which was, you know, a tangled tale at best. There were a lot of convoluted aspects to it. But Starr actually, you know, towards the start brought some successful prosecutions. He prosecuted Jim and Susan McDougal, who had been Bill and Hillary Clinton's business partners in the Whitewater land deal, for fraud.
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https://www.npr.org/2022/09/13/1122...unsel-who-investigated-clinton-has-died-at-76
 
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crescent said:
Lewinsky is an interesting person. In her youth she was almost criminally naïve. But she seems to have learned from her life and these days comes across as funny and wise.

Also, she ages very gracefully, something she attributes to diet, exercise, and a ****-ton of plastic surgery.

Anyway, her take on Starr's death:

as i’m sure many can understand, my thoughts about ken starr bring up complicated feelings… but of more importance, is that i imagine it’s a painful loss for those who love him.
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That's much more graceful than any treatment she ever got from him.
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Pacal said:
And if you have read, seen any interviews, with Monica Lewinsky or read anything by her concerning Kenneth Starr you find out very quickly that if she has a low opinion of William Clinton her feelings about Kenneth Starr and Linda Tripp are much, much lower.
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Which makes Lewinsky's comment on his death all the more striking. Someone she hated and despised died, and she had the grace to acknowledge that is a sad thing for those close to him.

I'm not sure how many die-hard Clinton haters realize the Lewinsky disliked Starr. I am guessing many assumed she viewed Starr as some sort of savior.

And as others have said, it is equally possible to view Bill Clinton as a serial womanizer who cheated on his wife many times and preyed upon a very naïve young intern and also recognize Starr as a despicable hypocrite who abused his position to conduct an investigation far beyond the bounds of what was intended.
 
I won't dance on his grave, I assume he had friends or family that will miss him and I've had enough of that myself I don't wish it on anyone.

But I won't mourn him at all. The world is a better place without people like him who are so warped and twisted that their position is that anything you can do to the "other side" is not only expected, but is actually fair play and the right thing to do. We'd all benefit from less of that.
 
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