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Kansas State Rep arrested for...

Stacyhs said:
He isn't a qualified teacher. He has no teaching credential or training at all.
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Then he should not be managing children in a classroom, especially unsupervised.

He is also a raving religious freak from his FB page.
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Almost 100% predictable, without even having to read that. As I said, Kavanaugh and Cruz.

Also, with that pathetically poor command of English, logic and...actual law??, how on Earth did he earn a law degree?
 
Norman Alexander said:
Then he should not be managing children in a classroom, especially unsupervised.

Almost 100% predictable, without even having to read that. As I said, Kavanaugh and Cruz.

Also, with that pathetically poor command of English, logic and...actual law??, how on Earth did he earn a law degree?
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I've encountered some outrageously stupid lawyers in my time.
 
Norman Alexander said:
Then he should not be managing children in a classroom, especially unsupervised.

Almost 100% predictable, without even having to read that. As I said, Kavanaugh and Cruz.

Also, with that pathetically poor command of English, logic and...actual law??, how on Earth did he earn a law degree?
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I give you the entire “Trump” team of lawyers……
 
Stacyhs said:
He isn't a qualified teacher. He has no teaching credential or training at all.
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It may not be required since he has a law degree. My high school did not require any teaching degree or training for Ph.D.s, even for full-time teachers.
 
Modified said:
It may not be required since he has a law degree. My high school did not require any teaching degree or training for Ph.D.s, even for full-time teachers.
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Back in the early '90s I worked as a show presenter and production assistant at a planetarium in a public school district. Technically, I and the two others like me were paid as substitute teachers, so I know that the only requirement was that the sub have at least some college.

Side note: one day I picked up my check, and to my surprise it was 50% more than usual. Without our knowledge, the director had requested pay raises for all three of us, on the grounds that the specialized training needed to run the projectors, audio equipment, computer control programs, and the general knowledge of astronomy needed to do the question and answer sessions after the show meant that no generic substitute teacher could do the job, and that our specialization warranted higher pay. The school board said, "sorry, we can't afford that". So the director quietly prepared a Power Point presentation showing that the planetarium made more money for the school system than all of the athletic programs combined, through public shows and bookings by other school corporations, then reiterated that there were only four people, including himself, who knew how to run the facility. So we got our raises.
 
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Modified said:
It may not be required since he has a law degree. My high school did not require any teaching degree or training for Ph.D.s, even for full-time teachers.
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Does he have a proper doctorate? I though he was just a lawyer.
 
catsmate said:
Does he have a proper doctorate? I though he was just a lawyer.
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Any advanced degree may be allowed.

But as Foster Zygote pointed out, requirement for subs may be minimal. My sister, who has a BS in psychology but no teaching degree, used to sub. I think she did have to take some sort of certification course.
 
As far as I can tell, even full time teachers aren't usually required to have an "advanced degree" in the usual meaning of that term. It's typically something like a 4 year degree in education plus some certifications. I don't know the specifics for Kansas but this guy seems to have met the paper requirements for some jurisdictions for substitute teachers.
 
RecoveringYuppy said:
As far as I can tell, even full time teachers aren't usually required to have an "advanced degree" in the usual meaning of that term. It's typically something like a 4 year degree in education plus some certifications. I don't know the specifics for Kansas but this guy seems to have met the paper requirements for some jurisdictions for substitute teachers.
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I was referring to the lack of a requirement for specific 'teaching' training in order to teach.
Here in order to teach (at post-primary level) you need:
1. Specific Bachelor's degree in education (honours level, i.e. level 8), covering general teacher training and one or more (usually several) specific modules on the curriculum.

OR

2. A Bachelor's degree in a relevant subject (also at level 8) that specifically covers the requirements of the curriculum of the subject(s) to be taught.

AND

3. A specific teacher training qualification, usually a Higher Diploma in Education (H.Dip or H.Dip.Ed) which is a one year post-graduate course.

In either case the prospective teacher would have to hold a vetting certificate indicating they were a suitable person to have access to minors.

Any higher degrees (Masters or Doctorate) would be useful in applying for a post, and garner a salary increment, but on their own are not sufficient to teach.

Hence I, despite possessing doctorates, a masters and a B.A. (Mod) in natural science, am not qualified to teach in schools. Which is probably a good thing for all concerned. :)
 
Reading the article there are only a couple of questions that come to mind.

He said that the kids, or a lot of them, were in on it. They knew what was going on.

So, the question was was this:

1) Incredibly pure judgement, an elaborate prank where things that shouldn't have happened, happened, in an attempt to proves some sort of point that is not exactly clear at the moment

or

2) A complete psychotic breakdown.


What was described in the article was totally, freakin', nuts. It wasn't "Republican" or "Christian" or any sort of ideological things. It was just insane, literally.
 
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catsmate said:
Good grief, USAian teaching standards seem to be rather lax.
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And a substantial number of people would like to see those standards lowered. Abolishing the federal Department Of Education is a major goal of many on the Republican side. Abolishing public education in general has support in Congress. This state, Kansas, has at times put creationism in to the curriculum in this century.
 
From a recording of Mark Samsel in the classroom.
"You know who else is scary? Almighty God is scary!"
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Audio embedded in link kansascity.com

Sadly, I have to say, this sounds to me like someone who is having some kind of breakdown. I hope he gets help.
 

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Meadmaker said:
What was described in the article was totally, freakin', nuts. It wasn't "Republican" or "Christian" or any sort of ideological things. It was just insane, literally.
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Can you cite the sentiments that wouldn't be shared by most Republicans? As far as I can tell the only thing that wasn't entirely mainstream in Kansas was kicking the kid in the balls.
 
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I had a genuine issue with thinking of a title that covered the wackiness of the article. I gave up and went clickbait...
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Yup.

There is not enough space in the forum title bar to accurately describe how utterly bat-**** crazy this god-bothering froot loop is
 
The thread title doesn't deserve to be labeled clickbait, it's an accurate teaser for the story.
 
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