July 2008 Stundies

``What I dont get is... why are you here... If you think this is all bunk.. then it makes NO sense to me whatsoever, why you would go out of your way to "debunk" it...``

-Richard Harris (leader of TorontoChange)
source:http://e3s.ca/torontochange/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=200&Itemid=9

Note: the whole debate is stundie worthy.

It all began when a TorontoTruther who thinks I`m an (agent, relative of Mel Lastman (makes me part of a Jewish conspiracy etc)) posted this blog about me. I caught his bluff.

``NIST's ELITE
Written by Burt Tranious



Well people,

I was informed by a mutal friend (thankx ED) that I should start educating myself more on the direct evidence that was brought forth from the NIST Report. So, I decided he was right and begun contacting and researching all of the members that were a part of the NIST. I decided to go even a step further and contact certain Education Instatutes that many of the NIST members were employed, so that I may speak with many of the students to get an input on their opinion on the NIST Report given by one of their Professors. The later event turned out to be more prominalbe, since the majority of the students I chatted with consider all the members of the NIST Team SELLOUTS, for a few weeks on NASA's SUPER COMPUTER. Is that not sad?

BECOME INTERESTED BECOME EDUCATED BECOME INVOLVED``
 
I just got this on M. Loizeaux's video from '911MurderersAreLoose':

HOW INTERESTING! If you stop the video at any time when this presumed expert Mark Loizeaux is speaking (say 1:23 for example but there are plenty of other times) and compare him and the background with the picture that the author of this video uses on his channel homepage, you'll see they are one and the same! Yet he describes himself as "Just a guy looking for real truth from the 9/11 Truth Movement", apparently not Mr. Loizeaux. DECEPTION REVEALED, guess he wanted a photo and was lazy!
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I...I don't know what to say...
 
Blender Head said:
I just got this on M. Loizeaux's video from '911MurderersAreLoose':



I...I don't know what to say...
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perfect example of how much research truthers are willing to do

from the video uploaders profile (whom 911MurderersAreLoose accuses of being deceptive)
Just a guy looking for real truth from the 9/11 Truth Movement. Presenting a video series showcasing contradictions, evasions, omissions, misrepresentations and the downright falsehoods of the 9/11 Truth Movement.
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911MurderersAreLoose even quotes the first sentence, apparently thats as far as he read
 
1337m4n said:
I think we have a winner! http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3857156&postcount=296
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Actually, I think that should be a 4-part quote, mostly because it's even funnier in context. Below are (exerpts from) 4 posts from 1337m4n's nominee, from the same thread, shown exactly in order.

Dabljuh said:
You're not. Look it up yourself. Prove me wrong. That's your job. If you fail to do so in the long run, you're obliged to call me "Daddy".
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Dabljuh said:
See, real scientists don't demand proof, only dumbass college dropouts believe they need "proof" to "prove something".
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Dabljuh said:
How about, you prove for a change that there was no thermite?
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Dabljuh said:
You got to be ******** me. You propose the existence of something. I propose the nonexistence. I can't show evidence supporting my claim. You can show evidence supporting your claim. You bring the evidence, or fail to do so.

Waste of time.
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A winner for sure! :D Turbofan has found a witness to a "Pentagon Fly-over":

Turbofan said:
WRONG! We have at least one very credible witness called a FLIGHT DATA
RECORDER!

I don't like your witnesses either, do you see me crying about it? You can't
even get over the fact that the FDR shows the plane didn't hit the Pentagon...
so you keep trying to change the subject.
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This gem is from TC/Dom over at LCF:

nothing is aerodynamically impossible when you don't know the true flight path of the plane.
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I don't know the true FPs of all the commercial flights I take, so I guess they were fully capable of traveling to the moon and back!
 
Give this man a stundie. Now.



"I'm telling them the absolute truth"

"A lot of people say that NORAD is to blame, and that is actually true... all the Air National Guard pilots and all the planes were over the Dakotas and the mid western states for training exercises in domestic terrorism and practise runs, and that was not planned, that just fell into place for Bin Laden like a jigsaw"

"Getting to the World Trade Center collapse, unfortunately we now live in a world where people now believe that a 747 going 800MPH into a skyscraper, rupturing fuel tanks and setting fire to everything on those levels, is not enough to make a building fall down."

"The plane was going 800MPH with a full fuel tank. Can anyone guess how many gallons of fuel the average 747 can hold? Can anyone guess? A hundred and twenty thousand gallons of jet fuel. But they say "well jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel". Well guess what, last time I checked it's fire, and fire, last time I checked also, is hot. And 120,000 gallons of gasoline on fire is pretty hot."

"There's nothing in the world than can stand [a 747 going 800MPH], there's nothing in the world that could handle that kind of pressure. So that is why the World Trade Center collapsed; because fire burning everywhere at 13,000 degrees."

"A recent report on BBC says the hijackers are still alive and well [my note: this YouTube video was uploaded in July 2008 - 7 years and 10 months after the BBC report aired]. Well guess what, it's the friggen BBC, the British Broadcasting Corporation. The most liberal, the most anti-American news outlet on the planet."
 
Curlyrocks1 at YouTube.com reveals the secret performance of the CF-18:

and even if america wasn't ready (which they where) Canada too has F-18's fuled and ready to fly at all times and it only takes 40 minutes at full speed for an F-18 to go from the arctic circle to the lower end of mexico.
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By my calculation that's an average speed of about 5250MPH or Mach 6.9 at sea level.

You Canadians have been holding out! :mad:

ETA: Linky http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xjBbqRJT7Q&feature=related
 
Minadin said:
Actually, I think that should be a 4-part quote, mostly because it's even funnier in context. Below are (exerpts from) 4 posts from 1337m4n's nominee, from the same thread, shown exactly in order.
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He seems to be arguing both sides and losing both.
 
NAU

gumboot said:
Curlyrocks1 at YouTube.com reveals the secret performance of the CF-18:



By my calculation that's an average speed of about 5250MPH or Mach 6.9 at sea level.

You Canadians have been holding out! :mad:

ETA: Linky http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xjBbqRJT7Q&feature=related
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Don't you see, that's how Canada is going to overwhelm the US to force us into the dreaded North American Union! One day they have a jet that goes 5,000 mph, the next thing you know we're playing curling and drinking beer with Spanish names! :boxedin:
 
gumboot said:
How is that a stundie?
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see my comment a few posts up

defaultdotxbe said:
just click the arrow ^^
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he claims to have revealed the "deception" of the guy who posted the video (by showing that he has mark loizeaux as his avatar) but if you read the profile (of the guy who posted the video) there is no deception at all, hes clearly not a truther and isnt pretending to be

for some reason it gives me an image of am onty python-esque sketch that may or may not actually be a monty python sketch
 
Myron Proudfoot said:
Don't you see, that's how Canada is going to overwhelm the US to force us into the dreaded North American Union! One day they have a jet that goes 5,000 mph, the next thing you know we're playing curling and drinking beer with Spanish names! :boxedin:
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Oh, great, now we have to take you out too.










Dress nicely, we're going to a fancy restaurant. ;)

Hey, we're Canadian, what did you think we meant?
 
Our own late, and lamented obsessive Billy Rea completely misses the concept of a "joke" over at LC:

"PS - rwguinn ironically commits his own little Stundie within the July Stundies here... Does he not know that Inconel alloys are nickel based and NOT steel based?"

Billy Rea must be a hoot at parties: alternatively explaining why it is difficult for a chicken to cross the road, and then mumbling obsessively over in the corner about evil JREF operatives...
 
Minadin said:
Actually, I think that should be a 4-part quote, mostly because it's even funnier in context. Below are (exerpts from) 4 posts from 1337m4n's nominee, from the same thread, shown exactly in order.
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This is equally stundie worthy:
Here
 
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