July 2008 Stundies

[Unsecured Coins]

This being July, I have only one request.

Make it good.

 

[fullflavormenthol]

roundhead on why fighters don't need weapons...

Frankly, weapons loaded or not, it would still have been a deterrent to 77, even if ramming it was a decision to be made. And i am far from convinced a ready aircraft in the Capitol area did have some sort of ordenance aboard.

 

[gumboot]

Heiwa on his miraculous house:

Yes, the forces are equal. Cannot be otherwise. Luckily the roof of my house, built 1590, is very strong and anything dropping on it bounces off since then. Except a Swedish cannon ball 1640 (the town + my house was under attack by the Swedes) but it just punched a hole in the roof and broke an internal wooden spandrel. And nobody has bothered to fix that broken piece since. I can send you some photos, if you like. The hole in the roof was of course fixed. To stop the rain. In Saxony we like tight roofs. Glück auf!

What seals the deal here is that he was responding to this post:

Dunno what your problem is here, pom.
Action = reaction, right?
So, when a 10 million tonne asteroid travelling at 10,000kph strikes your house, clearly the forces are equal. Newton said so.
So the asteroid comes to a halt on your roof. It's pretty damn clear ... why must you fuss so about basic Newtonian physics??

That's right, a 10 million tonne asteroid travelling at 10,000km/h would bounce off his house (or possibly punch a hole in the roof and break an internal wooden spandrel....).

 

[Cuddles]

Wow, Heiwa's getting in early this month.

I nominate Heiwa for the following post:

WTC1:s structure was very much like a cheese. Something slammed into it and made a hole in the cheese, fire erupted and the cheese started to melt around the hole. Above the hole was a big, upper block of 33 000 tons of cheese. Below the hole was a much bigger block of cheese! 250 000 tons.
Now we are told the upper block started to move down, releasing potential energy, as the cheese below was melting around the hole. The upper cheese block, 33 000 tons, hits the lower cheese block, 250 000 tons, and compresses it. The hole disappears and molten cheese is squeezed out. What happens then?

Cheese structure has built in strength that can absorb potential energy. The strength can be likened to the amount of strain energy the hard cheese can absorb before being crushed. The amount of strain energy is almost constant per ton of cheese. Same in the upper and lower cheese parts.

Simple math shows that 33 000 tons of cheese above cannot compress 250 000 tons of cheese below when both parts absorb the same amount of strain energy at the compression. No global collapse.

Unless you fit some extra stuff in the lower cheese. But then cheese rubble and debris are ejected in all directions and reveals the bluff.

I'm not nominating the cheese, since I'm fairly sure that was around last month. However, apparently Heiwa is so sure that the WTC was made of cheese that he wants to let as many people know as possible, even if it requires nominating himself for literary awards.

 

[Horatius]

I'm not even going to try and make fun of this one:

I agree with the A-Train. The evidence shows that the FBI altered this report report, hence, they can't be trusted. DRG doesn't trust the FBI either, so he is vindicated. Anyone who disgrees with me of the A-Train cannot be trusted. Anyone who does agree can be trusted.

From now on, no information from the FBI shall be considered valid, unless it is confirmed by an independent source.

If you disagree with this post, then that means you disagree with me or the A-Train, so what you say cannot be trusted in advance.

 

[Shrinker]

I'm not even going to try and make fun of this one:

I think I'd like to nominate anyone who's still trying to debate Galileo after reading that post of his.

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

I think I'd like to nominate anyone who's still trying to debate Galileo after reading that post of his.

Indeed. He's quite obviously trolling.

 

[Confuseling]

Indeed. He's quite obviously trolling.

Somehow... uncanny sensation... couldn't conceivably have met him before?

 

[gumboot]

Dabljuh explains the materials used in buildings:

Fire can be a problem in that it destroys individual floors and of course the interior when it bends steel, and when it does that, it is more likely to spread and cause even more damage still, which is why special heat-resistent steel is used in the construction of skyscrapers, and this heat-resistent steel is again fire- and heatproofed with foam.

 

[gumboot]

MaGZ revives his "missile into WTC7" theory and turns it into the Magic Missile theory.

I have speculate that shrapnel from the missile caused this fire in WTC 1 and likely the fires in WTC 6 and WTC 7. .

(For background, the AIM-120 has a 50lb warhead and the AIM-9 has a 20lb warhead, and as you can imagine WTC6 and WTC1 are a substantial distance from WTC7 where the missile allegedly hit after missing an attempt to shoot down UA175).

No, I'm not making this up.

 

[bonavada]

Make of this what you will:-

Orac HERE AT LCF (Post 21 about the BBC and WTC7)

Someone was manipulating that signal to cut it off without it looking like being cut off, which means to the digital technology observer, that it WAS being cut off

BV

 

[Blender Head]

Fluorideinwater states why the WTC fires would not be hot enough:

A fire deprived of oxygen makes a significant amount of smoke. This means that conditions for the fires weren't optimal.

And says the Windsor Tower fire was "healthy":

If you want to see a healthy fire, look at video of the Windsor Tower in Madrid. Now that's a fire.

After I show pictures of a lot of smoke at the Windsor:

Did I suggest that the conditions in the Windsor Tower were optimal? No

As of this writing I can support the quoted statements with a screencap.

 

[fkwebinash]

Probably not a stundie, but kind of a redudancy that's typical from Stundie:

"he [Alex Jones] never talks about UFOs and I believe in them. He likes to avoid the speculative as much as possible."

I will edit when I find the source, silly me closed the link ._.

 

[Minadin]

Dabljuh explains the materials used in buildings:

Yeah, that fellow really understands the principles and materials used in building design and construction, and especially in regard to the WTC, as he also demonstrates (and I nominate) here:

Argument from Ignorance. The WTC wasn't a "Tube in Tube" Design. It had a ridiculously sturdy central core with the exterior holding only very little of the weight.

 

[Wildy]

Are the stundies only open to forum posts?

 

[Undesired Walrus]

No.

'I don't care about his ****ing experience'
Dylan Avery, WTC7 program

 

[Blender Head]

ChildlikeExpress:

i don't know if [Jon Gold] thinks CD is a possibility. I think it is, but i think it is very unlikely and, here i think Gold and i agree, it is not the best point to make to people[...]

I did my best Tim "The Tool Man" Taylor impersonation upon reading that.

 

[cyclonic]

LAIN1962 defending richard gage and his cardboard boxes.

"Precisely, the load of the building was supported by the 47 central columns and the outer mesh of steel, it is impossible for that to collapse unless you remove the support from below, the floors only needed to support people and machinery for that level and provide an extra support not the principal support, THE 22ND AND 77TH FLOORS WERE SOLID STEEL,YOU CAN'T BREAK ALL THAT UP."

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DFVoencqfZw

 

[Mel Odious]

Does anybody know what the holdup is with the June Stundie finals?

 

[JamesB]

Aldo from CIT, err... CSI, in the comments on SLC, responding to my question as to how evidence could have been planted at the Pentagon:

How do you suppose the perps of Operation Northwoods would have faked the DNA of the college students on holiday or the fighter pilot, James???

http://www.haloscan.com/comments.php?user= screwloosechange &comment=8962114595542986174

Uhh, yeah, DNA matching wasn't exactly state-of-the-art in 1962...