Split Thread Judy Wood and dustification

Luke may have all that Force stuff going for him, but Lando did it in style in a cool rockin' Millennium Falcon. And of course, Wedge is the secret to both of their successes.

I think, no, I know that all of us are like Wedge Antillies. We place our X-Wings on the outside & inside of the Truthers Death Star Conspiracy Theories. We help out the Luke Skywalkers in the Truthers trenches so they can fire their torpedoes to blow the Death Star Conspiracies to kingdom come. Then we infiltraite the Truthers Death Star by flying into the heart of their looney Truth Movement with all the Lando Calrissions & fire torpedoes at their core. Thus collapsing the inner core & blowing up their delusions of granduer from the inside.
 
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hokulele,

You are engaging in the conduct of a classic scoundrel, you know the Ben Johnson quote, right? Shame on you for your mock indignation. You don't have any more or any less right to claim empathy for the victims of 9/11 than I do and I won't allow you to make that claim.

You're classified as a delusional paranoid schizophrentic who must seek professional medical help. Please seek a guidence counselor!

By dressing yourself in sympathy for the victims you are using them to try to dodge coming to grips with what happened to them. After all, what happened to them has never been properly explained, and that is the point that is being made here.

And you think that space beams caused the 9/11 Victims deaths? That's a slap in their face, including the 9/11 Families who have to suffer because people like you just can't handle the truth.

So, no, indeed. You don't represent victims and you are not more sympathetic to them than I am and calling attention to the false explanations about what was done to them is, in fact, the right and proper thing to do.

Stop using the 9/11 Victims in your saddistic attempts of playing the "victim". You are not a family member of the 9/11 Victims so refrain yourself from using them like you're doing for your own political gain.

How dare you engage in mock sympathy. That is a cheap, nasty trick.

You mock the 9/11 Victims & the Families, so you've got room to talk pal! Your tricks are cheap by using the 9/11 Victims for your own gain! Sick trick pal!
 
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hokulele,


By dressing yourself in sympathy for the victims you are using them to try to dodge coming to grips with what happened to them. After all, what happened to them has never been properly explained, and that is the point that is being made here.

That's stupid. The medical effects of the first responders is being studied in great detail and all the effects are the result of the air they breathed.

How many first responders do you know? I suspect zero. I know a couple and meet countless others in my day-to-day travels. This is because I live in Staten Island, NY, the bedroom community that has more families of victims and surviving first responders than anywhere else.

I live near one of the medical facilities dedicated to 9/11 first responders.
You are welcome and encouraged to stand at the entry to this facility and ask these heroes any questions you want. If it should become necessary, I'm sure the docs will patch you up, not that I wish violence on anyone.


The Mount Sinai WTC Program Clinical Center on Staten Island
Richmond University Medical Center
690 Castleton Ave
Staten Island, NY 11801​
 
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Dear Big Al,

How many times am I going to have to remind you NOT to engage in abosolutist declarations?

There are a lot of witnesses who have made statements consistent with directed energy weaponry destruction. One just as to look and to be mindful of what people are actually saying. I'm going to give you an example.

If a steel building is falling down and if, as is claimed, all the steel is later recovered, then it follows the sound and the shaking of the ground would be incredible.

But, we all know that neither of those things happened, including Zachary Goldfarb, who was standing 'right there' and this is what he said:

"So the second tower comes down. Huge clouds, huge -- the same thing. It's like, hey, I've been here already, you know? Just horrible. The strangest thing is I don't remember noise associated with it. You would think that would be a very noisy kind of thing, and I just remember quiet. I don't know if like your ears disconnect or something? I don't know. I don't remember ground shaking, noise, any of that stuff, and I was right there. Much too close."

This is your quote to support DEW? One unsited quote describing some guy not remembering how loud it was? Adrenaline does funny things.

What about the seismic data? Actual scientific instruments recording the event show how much the ground shook. Are you trying to say the collapses were quiet? Really?

911seismic.gif
 
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This is your quote to support DEW? One unsited quote describing some guy not remembering how loud it was? Adrenaline does funny things.

What about the seismic data? Actual scientific instruments recording the event show how much the ground shook. Are you trying to say the collapses were quiet? Really?

[qimg]http://uscrisis.lege.net/911/911seismic.gif[/qimg]


macgyver,

Are you sure you want to go down the seismic data path? If so, please state your assumptions about what sort of seismic signal should be created by the <10 second, near onto total annihilation of 110 story steel skyscrapers and a 47 story skyscraper.

regards
 
please state your assumptions about what sort of seismic signal should be created by the <10 second, near onto total annihilation of 110 story steel skyscrapers and a 47 story skyscraper.
Dude, it's right there. You quoted it.
 
Haven't you seen the video where there is a clear 'flash' in both buildings a millisecond prior to penetration ? Just ask and I will produce. Many believe that these incendiary events may have been to act as a match for the kerosene.

NIST says that an office fire wiill typically only burn at one location for 20 minutes before all the available fuel is consumed.Of course the kerosene fires lit a much much larger area in one go- I'm sure you have to agree. Therefore the much much larger area would all have finished burning together 20 minutes later plus/minus.. (The kerosene itself of course was gone in mere minutes as you would expect with jet fuel burning off).It was mostly atomised from the impact anyway and went up for the most part in the initial fireball.

You know all this already. Look at me rambling on.....lol

No, NIST (IIRC) does not claim this. Only Box Boy Gage has claimed this, and it is taken completly out of context.
 
macgyver,

Are you sure you want to go down the seismic data path? If so, please state your assumptions about what sort of seismic signal should be created by the <10 second, near onto total annihilation of 110 story steel skyscrapers and a 47 story skyscraper.

regards

The wave they measured, dude. That's what the collapse of the WTC towers felt like to planet earth.




Ignorance and arrogance is a painful thing to witness.
 
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macgyver,

Are you sure you want to go down the seismic data path? If so, please state your assumptions about what sort of seismic signal should be created by the <10 second, near onto total annihilation of 110 story steel skyscrapers and a 47 story skyscraper.

regards

You're ignoring what Macgyver's saying about the seismic graph. Now what do you think would show up on a seismic graph when 2 110 story Towers & a 47 story building collapses? You think that there would be nothing on them? The seismic graph that Macgyver provided is consistant with the evidence provided by the 9/11 Commission.
 
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Be careful with yor absolutes. You probably did not see everyone and thus do not know what sort of skin indicators of DEW they may have had. Here's one example for consideration. I can tell you, in case you're interested, there are many others:

[qimg]http://drjudywood.com/articles/dirt/dirtpics/AASreeetStunnedAP.jpg[/qimg]

That looks like a guy covered with dust, possibly having a hard time breathing due to some inhaled occlusion, and possibly been crying about the fact that he just escaped with his life, and maybe even seen some of his dead friends' bodies. Who the **** knows.

What I do know, is it's not from a DEW, that is for damn certain!
 
macgyver,

Are you sure you want to go down the seismic data path? If so, please state your assumptions about what sort of seismic signal should be created by the <10 second, near onto total annihilation of 110 story steel skyscrapers and a 47 story skyscraper.

regards

The seismic path? I go down the science path. It's a simple fact when a whole lot of crap hits the ground with a lot of force...it shakes the freaking ground..and is really freaking loud...enough that earthquake sensors pick it up. I have provided the data.

I'm not even sure what you're trying to argue. Are you saying the DEW weapons caused a silent collapse? Please elaborate.
 
That's stupid. The medical effects of the first responders is being studied in great detail and all the effects are the result of the air they breathed.

How many first responders do you know? I suspect zero. I know a couple and meet countless others in my day-to-day travels. This is because I live in Staten Island, NY, the bedroom community that has more families of victims and surviving first responders than anywhere else.

I live near one of the medical facilities dedicated to 9/11 first responders.
You are welcome and encouraged to stand at the entry to this facility and ask these heroes any questions you want. If it should become necessary, I'm sure the docs will patch you up, not that I wish violence on anyone.


The Mount Sinai WTC Program Clinical Center on Staten Island
Richmond University Medical Center
690 Castleton Ave
Staten Island, NY 11801​

Dear Big Al,

I am going to make an effort here to reach out for common ground. I am not here seeking to win an argument, score a point, make you look bad or anything like that. Let me repeat: I am here seeking common ground and discussion on something we can both agree needs attention, care and thoughtful cooperation.

With that frame of reference in mind, one of the outreach issues presented by the DEW assertion is that in the absence of a clear understanding as to what destroyed the WTC, it is not possible to come to grips with the medical effects that were caused.

I have come across the name of Dr. Jacqueline Moline, Director of the WTC Medical Program:

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/09/07/nyregion/07sinai.600.jpg
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Is it your understanding that program is being starved for funds? What is its current status?

Anyway, the issue of not knowing what actually happened is almost certainly a factor in the inability to properly treat those who are suffering. For her part, Dr. Moline recognizes and acknowledges the mysterious nature of the toxicology:

"Among the many points that Dr. Moline made, the first was that the 9/11 rescue and recovery workers “are patients not victims”. Dr. Moline’s second point was in reference to the toxicants and toxicant exposure as she said that it is “always difficult to prove the cause of an issue with a toxicant. Science is bad about mixed exposure and this was a completely unknown mixture”. Dr. Moline further stated that there absolutely was no and there is “no literature about this yet, it is a total new thing”. Despite the fact that ‘we do known the constituents’ there is ‘NO preexisting evidence’”. From a scientific and medical standpoint this is clearly a novel, complicated situation riddled with issues."

I have elsewhere posted up the suggestion that posters look into some of the companies that manufacture, develop and test directed energy weapons, including their lethal effects. I named two companies in particular:

SAIC and ARA.

I also mentioned the Directed Energy Professional Society (DEPS) and the AFRL's Directed Energy Directorate.

An outreach effort desperately needs to made by respiratory sufferers to the directed energy community with the aim in view of EXPLORING whether, just for the sake of, say, research, the medical effects might be consistent with the lethality effects of certain types of DEW. Obviously this has to be done very carefully and thoughtfully for reasons I don't think I have to spell out.

What I am aware of, however, is that the US Directed Energy Directorate was not at all offended by Dr. Wood's outreach to them and to her claim that DEW destroyed the WTC. So, an inroad already exists as a matter of record, could more folks but realize it.

Once again, Big Al, the concern her is for the medical treatment of people who are suffering, for whom there are no answers, as yet.

Can that hurt? After all, no one knows what causes the illnesses that many are suffering from, all as so plainly stated by Dr. Moline, as quoted above.
 
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Dear Big Al,

How many times am I going to have to remind you NOT to engage in abosolutist declarations?

There are a lot of witnesses who have made statements consistent with directed energy weaponry destruction. One just as to look and to be mindful of what people are actually saying. I'm going to give you an example.

If a steel building is falling down and if, as is claimed, all the steel is later recovered, then it follows the sound and the shaking of the ground would be incredible.

But, we all know that neither of those things happened, including Zachary Goldfarb, who was standing 'right there' and this is what he said:

"So the second tower comes down. Huge clouds, huge -- the same thing. It's like, hey, I've been here already, you know? Just horrible. The strangest thing is I don't remember noise associated with it. You would think that would be a very noisy kind of thing, and I just remember quiet. I don't know if like your ears disconnect or something? I don't know. I don't remember ground shaking, noise, any of that stuff, and I was right there. Much too close."

Obviously you have never been through any kind of tramatic even such as this.

Stress and shock will certainly do that to a person.
 
macgyver,

Are you sure you want to go down the seismic data path? If so, please state your assumptions about what sort of seismic signal should be created by the <10 second, near onto total annihilation of 110 story steel skyscrapers and a 47 story skyscraper.

regards
The collapse was not less than 10 seconds; do you need help with the math? Supporting Judy's insanity is funny. Are you joking around posting lies and idiotic delusions? You can't lack that much knowledge on 911 and physics; can you?
 
The seismic path? I go down the science path. It's a simple fact when a whole lot of crap hits the ground with a lot of force...it shakes the freaking ground..and is really freaking loud...enough that earthquake sensors pick it up. I have provided the data.

I'm not even sure what you're trying to argue. Are you saying the DEW weapons caused a silent collapse? Please elaborate.

DEW's are just as stupid & lame as silent explosives. Jammonius's got nothing but psycho babble!
 
Be careful with yor absolutes. You probably did not see everyone and thus do not know what sort of skin indicators of DEW they may have had. Here's one example for consideration. I can tell you, in case you're interested, there are many others:

[qimg]http://drjudywood.com/articles/dirt/dirtpics/AASreeetStunnedAP.jpg[/qimg]

That's dust. The picture below is very similar to the result of the UV flash from a beam weapon. This is why people that weld wear UV goggles and protective clothing.

Nothing like that was seen in any hospital on 9/11.

Source: Samuel Glasstone, The Effects of Nuclear Weapons, 1962, Revised 1964, U.S. Dept of Defense and U.S. Dept of Energy.
 
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