Split Thread Judy Wood and dustification

Jam- the facts speak for themselves. Enough steel was retrieved from GZ to make up for both towers, wtc 7, and then some.

deal with the Truth.
 
Innovations was about as far from the Towers and WTC7 as you could get.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/35/WTCmall.png


yup, way over on the easternmost side

innovationluggage.jpg
 
Jam- the facts speak for themselves. Enough steel was retrieved from GZ to make up for both towers, wtc 7, and then some.

deal with the Truth.


What makes this claim even stranger is that mass is mass, regardless of the size of the particles. Even if all of the mass of the towers were "dustified", there would still be a freaking large pile of dust.

This is one of the reasons I keep asking the "dustifiers" how large a pile should have been left and for them to show their math.
 
What is the source of your overriding concern for declaring yourself right and me wrong in connection with data that I post?

Nothing you have posted proves anything. The photographs of people in the basement spaces just shows that the basement spaces were much, much larger than the volume of the ruble that fell into them.
 
No parky, the Twin Towers were turned to dust, as shown, again and again in this thread. Here's another:


Look!
This has to be a joke, no one can be this ignorant on 911 and post this much moronic delusions.

You posted a photo of steel falling and trailing dust from the WTC tower. The dust is wallboard (hint; the stuff many houses use as the inside of the wall), ceiling tiles, insulation, and other dust; steel does not turn to dust when it falls in a gravity collapse.

There are many studies of the dust; but I can see how you missed them.

Stop posting stupid junk, it hurts my head to see this much dirt dumb junk based on an insane person's fantasy; poor Judy and her nut case ideas.
 
This has to be a joke, no one can be this ignorant on 911 and post this much moronic delusions.

You posted a photo of steel falling and trailing dust from the WTC tower. The dust is wallboard (hint; the stuff many houses use as the inside of the wall), ceiling tiles, insulation, and other dust; steel does not turn to dust when it falls in a gravity collapse.

There are many studies of the dust; but I can see how you missed them.

Stop posting stupid junk, it hurts my head to see this much dirt dumb junk based on an insane person's fantasy; poor Judy and her nut case ideas.

Actually only one side, the interior would be gypsum. the other three sides are fragile spray on fireproofing.

wall-column-1.gif
 
I'm waiting for Jam to prove the FEMA figure of 350,000 tons of steel is a lie.

Don't hold your breath cause he won't explain it. He can't prove that it's a "lie" because Jam thinks that Tinkerbell came and used magical fairy dust to turn solid steel into "dust".
 
What makes this claim even stranger is that mass is mass, regardless of the size of the particles. Even if all of the mass of the towers were "dustified", there would still be a freaking large pile of dust.

This is one of the reasons I keep asking the "dustifiers" how large a pile should have been left and for them to show their math.

Right. And why would have they paid union wages to dudes to break up the "dust" for months afterwards, if it was just "dust." They would have only needed to vaccum or sweep. Why would you jackhammer dust, so that you could truck it away? This guy jammonius is obviously clinically insane. And horribly off-topic.
 
Right. And why would have they paid union wages to dudes to break up the "dust" for months afterwards, if it was just "dust." They would have only needed to vaccum or sweep. Why would you jackhammer dust, so that you could truck it away? This guy jammonius is obviously clinically insane. And horribly off-topic.

I second that!

Now where's the paddy wagon & straight jacket??
 
Jam has already told me in a PM that he has no corroborated or verified evidence that the FEMA figure of 350,000 tons of recovered GZ steel, is inaccurate.

and honestly, I wanna thank Jam for motivating me to do a little research and find the FEMA report. now I can debunk "DEW" truthers any time I want.
 
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yup, way over on the easternmost side

[qimg]http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm89/AWSmith1955/innovationluggage.jpg[/qimg]

Thank you for posting the mall diagram.

So, we now know where Innovations Luggage was. Presumably, the claim is that that part of the mall survived, but others didn't. Even that, however, is a lessening of the claim. The entire mall cannot have been destroyed because there's photo proof of that.

Plus, there is no proof other parts of the mall were destroyed.

Plus, there is the bruhaha about whether or not jeans from Gap store, which is at the closest end of the mall to the Towers, were looted.

Admittedly, the information here is a mess and few conclusions one way or another can be gleaned from sources like this:

http://www.wtclivinghistory.org/images/page160_big.jpg

Do not post images with swear words and do not hot link images.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Lisa Simpson


While conclusions one way or another cannot be drawn, it is clear that even if there was some damage to the mall floor, the above account shows that a firetruck was retrieved from it. The mall floor was the 1st sub-basement.

You folks are going to strenuous extremes, as usual, to prove very little.

You can't even prove the first level of the sub-basement was damaged much, let alone lower ones. :eye-poppi
 
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Jam has already told me in a PM that he has no corroborated or verified evidence that the FEMA figure of 350,000 tons of recovered GZ steel, is inaccurate.

and honestly, I wanna thank Jam for motivating me to do a little research and find the FEMA report. now I can debunk "DEW" truthers any time I want.

Do rules permit you to both disclose and misstate PMs? If they do permit you to do that without permission of the person who sent the PM then it's still a tacky thing to do, I would think. I won't correspond with you on a PERSONAL basis anymore, parky.

That was low.:mad:
 
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Thank you for posting the mall diagram.

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While conclusions one way or another cannot be drawn, it is clear that even if there was some damage to the mall floor, the above account shows that a firetruck was retrieved from it. The mall floor was the 1st sub-basement.

You folks are going to strenuous extremes, as usual, to prove very little.

You can't even prove the first level of the sub-basement was damaged much, let alone lower ones. :eye-poppi

We can conclude that the 7 lower levels were much larger than you can imagine or required to contain much of the debris from the towers.
 
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You have no evidence to support the steel turning to "dust" Jam. You lie between your teeth & you're blind as a bat.

You're still 100% WRONG!

Falling steel sections doesn't support your crazy & insane theory that steel turned to "dust".

EPIC FAILURE!

At some point, discussion becomes rather fixed. Your quoted claim is made almost immediately below post #247 (to mention only the most recent visual evidence of steel being turned to dust that I have posted) that shows steel being turned to dust, at least arguably. And, I think it's the better argument. Yet again, these extreme declarations of 100% right -- you -- and 100% wrong -- me -- in the face of visual data THAT I AM POSTING and not you, is extraordinary.

It is inappropriate, I think, to make extreme declarations about what you claim MY VISUAL DATA SHOW, while simultaneously showing nothing at all to support your claim.

:boggled:
 
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It's 9:11 where I am. ;) I'm going to pause for now. Plus, I'm still miffed that parky would disclose AND misstate a PM, so I'm taking a break.

take it easy
 
Steel being turned to dust instantaneously:
[qimg]http://drjudywood.com/articles/DEW/dewpics/GJS-WTC030c_original.jpg[/qimg]
Look!

Drywall is made of steel now?

Wow, the things you learn from twoofers!
 
Do rules permit you to both disclose and misstate PMs? If they do permit you to do that without permission of the person who sent the PM they shouldn't. I won't correspond with you on a PERSONAL basis anymore, parky.

That was low.:mad:
You are open-loop delusion posting. You can't even stop to correct your errors; how much of the WTC was air?

You say the WTC pile was flat then you say 40 to 50 feet; when I say 95 percent air you say I am tell a lie but fail to back up your delusion with evidence.

What is low is your steel turning to dust lie; a big lie you can't back with anything but more lies.

Dust?
wtclookingforThermitenotfound.jpg

More dust
steelstuffWTC.jpg

What exactly turns steel to dust? Please explain your discovery; details and sources.
 
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