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Joy Reid........lying Homophobe

As Groucho Marx once said, I wouldn't want to be in an alliance with anyone who would have me for an ally.

Also, is an "allyship award" like a participation trophy? Or is it more like a non-participation trophy?

Also, people change over time, hopefully for the better as they absorb new evidence and influences. Who cares what she may have said years ago on a long defunct and deleted blog? Even Hillary Clinton was against gay marriage before she was for gay marriage.

If she really did say these things, then this is an uplifting redemption story. A confirmation that prejudices can be rehabilitated, that haters can can change their spots and become valuable allies in the fight for social justice. Don't persecuted minorities have enough enemies already, without going after the converts to their cause?

And why bother to convert, then, if conversion doesn't lead to forgiveness and reconciliation? What would Pascal wager, in this case?
 
You seem to be right about that one:

“When we extended our invitation to Ms. Reid to honor her at our 45th anniversary celebration, we did so knowing about the blog posts from the late 2000s regarding Charlie Crist,” continued Hodges. “We appreciated how she stepped up, took ownership, apologized for them, and did better—this is the behavior and approach we ask of any ally.”
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My admittedly limited understanding is that a long time ago these surfaced and she owned them and apologized, etc., etc. Now she’s changing the story and claiming she was hacked.

Could be because there was a time when we accepted apologies, but now anything you say or said or do or did can and will be used against you forever and ever, amen.
 
Trebuchet said:
It's just another liberal hypocrite callout thread. Conservatives here are very found of them.
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Time to start posting conservative hypocrite callout threads.
We can start with the Eavangelical Christian support for Donald Trump.....
 
Spock Jenkins said:
My admittedly limited understanding is that a long time ago these surfaced and she owned them and apologized, etc., etc. Now she’s changing the story and claiming she was hacked.
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Her statement concerning Crist has not changed. The person who discovered those has somehow suddenly found a bunch of other posts (now that Sean Hannity's brazen issues have come to light - odd that), and *those* are ones she claims were hacked.

On her side - apparently a notarized letter dating back to last December asking Google to investigate the matter, signed by a lawyer. Also, the main people hyping this are some Bernie Sanders fans that have been spewing racism her way for years now, including the person who just found these posts and Glenn Greenwald, and right-wing white nationalists like Mike Cernovich and the Breitbart team.

Still, I wouldn't put it past her to have said homophobic/transphobic things in the past...but why deny these when she has owned up to her Charlie Crist stuff? Basically, it's a big "wait and see" for the moment.
 
LTC8K6 said:
Why doesn't she just say she has changed then, instead of inventing homophobic hackers who made the posts?
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She did. It's more than a decade ago. We'll see if one really can hack the Wayback Machine files which is what she said happened when more bad blogs were found.

It's all unfortunate, she was one of the few newscasters left that called people on their lies and refused to let them come on her show just to repeat campaign speeches.
 
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