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John McCain Diagnosed With Brain Cancer

I disagree with much of what McCain believes, and suspect he's less of a maverick than some would wish or like to think, but he's always seemed like someone who at least tries to do the right thing and to address content rather than just party line, and I'm sorry he's ill.

Yep. I always had a high level of respect for him, and up until he got deep into running for president (i.e. picking Palin), I had a high opinion of him as a politician & would have been OK with him as CIC.

I still have a lot of respect for him, even if my opinion of him as a politician has gone down.
 
Yep. I always had a high level of respect for him, and up until he got deep into running for president (i.e. picking Palin), I had a high opinion of him as a politician & would have been OK with him as CIC.

I still have a lot of respect for him, even if my opinion of him as a politician has gone down.

I lost respect for him during the Bush II administration. He would always talk a good game on the Daily Show then give in and do what ever the administration wanted when it came to voting.
 
Sure, just like... Except they get to give themselves (by voting) whatever benefits they wish and pay for them with the precious government money that they are so unwilling to spend on other peoples' health care.

It is still at it's core an employee benefit. It makes no difference where their employer gets their money. I was a mercenary for six years. It makes no difference that my client decided to compensate me with the GI Bill. I didn't ask where he got his money, but I have a good idea where.
 
It is still at it's core an employee benefit. It makes no difference where their employer gets their money. I was a mercenary for six years. It makes no difference that my client decided to compensate me with the GI Bill. I didn't ask where he got his money, but I have a good idea where.

You missed my points entirely. Unlike most employer benefits, the health benefits provided to congress members are determined by the congress members themselves, and are quite generous uses of government funds that the same congress members have publicly announced should not be used for others' health benefits. I am calling them on hypocrisy. And please don't reply that it is legal. Sure it is legal- it is still hypocrisy.
 
You missed my points entirely. Unlike most employer benefits, the health benefits provided to congress members are determined by the congress members themselves, and are quite generous uses of government funds that the same congress members have publicly announced should not be used for others' health benefits. I am calling them on hypocrisy. And please don't reply that it is legal. Sure it is legal- it is still hypocrisy.

But it is tied to their profession, which republicans support generally.
 
Out of curiosity is it usually called "brain cancer" in the USA? Don't know why but over here it's usually always referred to as "a brain tumour" unlike most other cancers.
 
My girl friend died of glioblastoma in 2011. She lived almost 3 years after it was first diagnosed.

Here is how it goes:

A glioblastoma is a malignant cancer - this means it tends to grow fast to cause real trouble soon.
The glia cells are not neurons, rather they are structural matter between the neurons.

The specific problem with gliablastoma is that the cancerous cells extend fuzzily beyond the core tumor, and current technology cannot give you images of these very fine extensions. So you can remove the tumor surgically, radiate the remnants - but you will still leave some cancer cells untouched.
In short: You CANNOT remove the cancer completely. It WILL return - 100%.

After surgery and/or radiation (which damage the brain and require medication - cortisols and often something against epileptic seizure; such would essentially be a sort of tranquilizer), you have some time without detectable cancer growth. Chemotherapy is available to stretch that time: Temozolomide. Before Temozolomide, average life expectancy after diagnosis was just 9 months or so, the agent extended this to something like 16 months.
As a matter of fact, when my girl friend had lived for two years before a first relapse was diagnosed, one onkologist mused whether that could be close to a world record.

Now when there is a relapse, things start getting difficult: The first tumor has been treated with radiation, and radiation is a big burden on the brain. Doses add up. The first round may leave you relatively okay, but the second round will wear you out. In case you survive to experience a third relapse, radiation will no longer be an option, because it would wreck your brain.

What I learned from this:
  • Removing the cancer gives you between 6 months and 2 years extra time in most cases, which you can try to use and enjoy. This will be the last good time in your life
  • Glioblastoma WILL kill you, and it won't take very long, so do not base your decisions on any hope you might be given 5 years. Senator McCain will NOT see the end of his term
  • Wenn the relapses roll in, you'll have difficult decisions to make: Untreated, you will be dead within a few short weeks or months. The first of those weeks or months will be ok, until the tumor starts pushing hard on brain tissue and blood vessels and bit by bit switch of physical and psychological functions. If you decide to treat, you can gain a few months more, but these will tougher sooner, as the treatment decreases the quality of your life immediately, with no certainty you will recover.

My advice to Senator McCain at this time would be:
Finish the political jobs that can be finished within a few weeks.
Retire.
Fight.
But do not fight so much you can't enjoy the little bright things in life.
Get your things in order. Now.
And decide in favor of more quality of life as opposed to more life. It's probably not worth the cost to try to just survive longer.



ETA:
Some ideas of the costs involved:
  • I still have one pill of Temozolomide, that my girl friend decided not to take anymore. It's the dosis for 1 month, and it cost 3,500 Euros. Per month.
  • While you enjoy the progress-free time, you need to undergo MRI frequently - at least once per quarter, which costs several 100 Euros
  • Other medication (cortisols, Keppra...) was not outrageous, I think, though significant, if your insurance doesn't reimburse you
  • I don't know that surgery and conventional surgery cost. After the first relapse, we tried a costly, though somewhat experimental radiation therapy with protons. The advantage is that the energy can be better focused in all 3 dimensions, whereas X-rays necessarily damage the entire column ob body matter that's in its path. This cost 20,000 Euros - plus transport, additional diagnostics (PET...) and accomodation at the clinic's guesthouse (we had to travel to Munich, about 500 or 600 km from here, for a week).
I was not directly involved in the finances and do not know the total amount of costs incurred over the 3 years she fought with the beast, but I'd estimate an order of magnitude of 150,000 Euros - luckily largely paid by a good insurer - even the Proton therapy. Chemotherapy was the biggest item.
 
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Maverick is a strange word.

1. an unorthodox or independent-minded person.

What's so unorthodox about having an independent mind? I'd like to live in a society where the dependent-minded were the unorthodox ones. "Oh, you don't think for yourself, how strange."
 
I was not directly involved in the finances and do not know the total amount of costs incurred over the 3 years she fought with the beast, but I'd estimate an order of magnitude of 150,000 Euros - luckily largely paid by a good insurer - even the Proton therapy. Chemotherapy was the biggest item.

Sorry to hear that, but I am curious, I live in germany and people I know got cancer, and they had not to pay anything (minimal amounts with hospital beds), even MRI. I did not have to pay anything beyond a special room at the hospital either. The price you cites sound to me she was not covered under the general health care programs (non private) which sounds very strange to me. Must have been a special situation...
 
I verified , and all medicaments are only what patient pays (5 or 10 euro per medicament - so not the 3500 you cite) and if you are above the 1% of your brutto salary, for chronical illness then it is capped
 
Maverick is a strange word.

1. an unorthodox or independent-minded person.

What's so unorthodox about having an independent mind? I'd like to live in a society where the dependent-minded were the unorthodox ones. "Oh, you don't think for yourself, how strange."

What's unorthodox about having an independent mind is that orthodoxy basically means having a dependent mind. "Correct belief" sort of presupposes that even if not explicitly. It would be nice if people were more inclined to think for themselves, but when they do they will likely be heterodox.
 
Sorry to hear that, but I am curious, I live in germany and people I know got cancer, and they had not to pay anything (minimal amounts with hospital beds), even MRI. I did not have to pay anything beyond a special room at the hospital either. The price you cites sound to me she was not covered under the general health care programs (non private) which sounds very strange to me. Must have been a special situation...

Private health insurance. That is not that special a situation, is it?
 
I verified , and all medicaments are only what patient pays (5 or 10 euro per medicament - so not the 3500 you cite) and if you are above the 1% of your brutto salary, for chronical illness then it is capped

Well, like I said: It was largely payed for by the insurance.
With private health insurance in Germany, you usually get the bill, pay for it out of your pocket, then get reimbursed by the insurance. That's how you know what the drugs actually cost, even if you end up paying only a token. With drugs this expensive, of course you are wise to strike a deal. In our case, the pharmacy agreed to wait a couple of weeks longer for payment of the chemotherapy, and the insurance agreed to reimburse a couple of weeks sooner, such that reimbursment came in sooner than bill was payed. Since this was a monthly routine, it worked out nicely.

In the case of the Proton Therapy, that was a more difficult case, and her family actually payed some 20,000 Euros out of private funds, and then it took a while until the insurer reimbursed. But they only reimbursed the medical costs themselves - diagnostocs, radiation, drugs -, not the guest house and also not the rental car and gas to travel to Munich. In all honesty, that was both a bit of luxury, which I payed.
 

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