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Keep in mind, his first recorded Beatles song was "Please Please Me", which was named for his habit of demanding that groupies fellate him before he went onstage.
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I find that hard to swallow.
 
Yeah, that's right! John Lennon was a no-good, no-hoper d1psh1t from the back streets of Liverpool who wrote and played no music that had any merit whatsoever in that or any other time. He was a blowhard junkie with the morals of a rattlesnake, and about as much talent. Why he got all the kudos is beyond me - I fail to see why someone doesn't just shoot him in the street he's such a waste of oxygen.

Oh...wait. That's been done. By a lone-gun nutter. So he IS dead. Isn't he.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Well, NTW, you have got what your favourite commentator obviously wanted. An outlet for his inane and insane ramblings. So why bother to post his diatribe here? Even though he has got his historical facts entirely wrong and just has an axe to grind, is it that you "are of like mind" that you are simply lending him the grindstone? Being a hollow and brainless speaking-trumpet for a braying donkey? Hmmm??

Naw...couldn't be... You're too smart for that, aren't you! Of course. ;) ;) ;)
 
NTW climb back up your tree. The Beatles was FOUR gifted musicians that got together in the same test-tube and created one of the most powerfull reactions ever seen. Debating who was the best is like asking: "Is there farther to New York than there is on bike".


If it sounds like, "oh, oh, oy vey, I'm so depressed," it's a John Lennon song.

If it sounds like, "Do dee doo! Doo de DEE dee do!" it's a Paul McCartney song.

If it sounds like, "Neer neer neer neer boing boing," it's a George Harrison song.

And if you can't sing it, it's a Ringo Starr song.
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Great list but i'll just say that it must be "If you CAN sing it it is a Ringo Song". The other guys wrote the songs with his (lack of) singing abilities in mind.:D Still he has sung some of Beatles's most charming numbers.;)
 
Nie Trink Wasser is!
Astonishment , he remains?
His self, tragedy!
 
He's a real nowhere man,
Sitting in his nowhere land,
Making all his nowhere plans,
For nobody...


Sorry, but I couldn't resist!
 
The only band from the era worth remembering was the Monkees.
 
I'm forced to agree with many of the sentiments...yes, Lennon sucked as a husband and father; yes, I have to change the station everytime Imagine comes on the radio; yes, although he was a Very Famous Person who Called-For-Peace(TM), he didn't do a damned thing to achieve it except those brainless, idiotic "bed-ins" (That's what I think I'll do to help achieve world peace...sit in bed for five days). But if you're talking about the dissolution of the Beatles, I blame Yoko for that more than John. In any case, to be honest I don't think any of it really matters now.
 
DrMatt said:
The only band from the era worth remembering was the Monkees.
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They (all 4) did a really good reunion CD in 1996 called "Justus."
 
But if you're talking about the dissolution of the Beatles, I blame Yoko for that more than John. In any case, to be honest I don't think any of it really matters now.
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True and ...true. That woman really had a very over inflated ego. I have told this story before but it is so good. There was a "Rockumentary" about Judas Priest and the making off "British Steel"(on the absolute to 10 of remarkable rock albums) and they apparently recorded the album in John's old mansion, which he sold to Ringo, who rented it out as studio. They discovered that all lavatories had two "thrones" side by side. Apparently Yoko wanted to share EVERYTHING with John, even crapping.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Legend has it that Ringo once said in her face: "You are an extremely twisted person" (or something like that).
 
I find that one should separate the work from the person.

There are many people in history who have accomplished incredible work and have had rather bad personalities. Michelangelo, Newton, Van Gogh, Wagner, Downey, Garland, Ellision, just to name a few; one does not have to be on good personal terms with a person in order to appreciate their work.
 
Ove said:


True and ...true. That woman really had a very over inflated ego. I have told this story before but it is so good. There was a "Rockumentary" about Judas Priest and the making off "British Steel"(on the absolute to 10 of remarkable rock albums) and they apparently recorded the album in John's old mansion, which he sold to Ringo, who rented it out as studio. They discovered that all lavatories had two "thrones" side by side. Apparently Yoko wanted to share EVERYTHING with John, even crapping.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Legend has it that Ringo once said in her face: "You are an extremely twisted person" (or something like that).
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Regardless of your feelings about Yoko (truth is, you don't know her, and neither do I), to say she broke up the Beatles is silly and very insulting to John. He was a big boy, and fully capable of making his own decisions. The respective egos of John and Paul would have torn the band apart anyway. Get over it, and stop blaming a woman you have never met.
 
Crossbow said:
There are many people in history who have accomplished incredible work and have had rather bad personalities. Michelangelo, Newton, Van Gogh, Wagner, Downey, Garland, Ellision, just to name a few
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Thomas Edison as well.
 
Mark said:

Get over it, and stop blaming a woman you have never met.
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Instead blame two men I've never met? I'll blame whom I choose...and anyway, what are you gonna do about it, huh? HUH? Yeah, that's what I THOUGHT!
 
Joshua Korosi said:


Instead blame two men I've never met? I'll blame whom I choose...and anyway, what are you gonna do about it, huh? HUH? Yeah, that's what I THOUGHT!
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(Insert gross and flatulent noises here)

:wink8:
 
Regardless of your feelings about Yoko (truth is, you don't know her, and neither do I), to say she broke up the Beatles is silly and very insulting to John. He was a big boy, and fully capable of making his own decisions. The respective egos of John and Paul would have torn the band apart anyway. Get over it, and stop blaming a woman you have never met.
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No i'm sorry but i won't, true there was a multitude of reasons to the split but it didn't become inevitable until Yoko showed up on the stage. I have read a lot of books about that period and one thing that most of them mentionsl is Yoko's need for posession. She couldn't leave John alone for 2 minutes, she wanted to OWN him and she wouldn't share him with anybody else.

You are right in the sense that she didn't directly say to John: "Get out of that group" (as far as i know at least) but she was one of the major factors.

Besides, yes he was a big boy but he was also madly in love and when you are in love you do extremely stupid things.
 
Ove said:


No i'm sorry but i won't, true there was a multitude of reasons to the split but it didn't become inevitable until Yoko showed up on the stage. I have read a lot of books about that period and one thing that most of them mentionsl is Yoko's need for posession. She couldn't leave John alone for 2 minutes, she wanted to OWN him and she wouldn't share him with anybody else.

You are right in the sense that she didn't directly say to John: "Get out of that group" (as far as i know at least) but she was one of the major factors.

Besides, yes he was a big boy but he was also madly in love and when you are in love you do extremely stupid things.
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I think the operative question is, why did John Lennon choose to be with someone who "wouldn't leave him alone for 2 minutes." The Beatles, as a performing unit, were clearly doomed anyway. Ringo had left once already, George had one foot out the door after touring with Bonnie and Delaney, Paul wanted to play ALL the instruments on his songs, and John was obviously terribly conflicted with the whole whole pop star thing. You give Yoko too much credit; she didn't break up the Beatles. Drugs, egos, fame, and bad management (Allen Klein) decisions did that.

Ghandi was said to be aterrible family man.
 
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