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John Edward - Help needed

Richard,

I think you did a very good job given the amount of air time you were given and the fact it was on ACA.

I have followed some of your efforts on Aussie TV in the past few years and I can only encourage you to continue the good fight. Dealing with the media is not easy.
 
ail said:
Richard,

I think you did a very good job given the amount of air time you were given and the fact it was on ACA.

I have followed some of your efforts on Aussie TV in the past few years and I can only encourage you to continue the good fight. Dealing with the media is not easy.
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You are too kind. Thank you.
 
Thank-you,

so in a nut-shell:

1. Hot-reading by gleaning information ahead of time from the audience via assistants chatting with them or bugging the studio.

2. Heavily editied.

3. Ringers in the audience.

I have noticed that in the videos of him doing live readings, he doesn't go into great detail and when he tries it's usually wrong. Like the suicide comment. Sheesh, what a pompous a-hole!

It also bothers me that it actually gives him more crediblity when he admits to all the things he doesn't know and that he could get things wrong. But even though when he does, he doesn't admit it, like in one of the videos when he asks the caller if there's a policeman connection and she says no, then he keeps saying "yes there is" over and over again.
 
PeterB said:
Question: What is the difference between a viola and a banjo?
Answer: The viola gives out more heat when you burn it.
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Why are double bass jokes so simple?
So the violas can understand them.

Sorry, did this thread have a topic?:boxedin:
 
If I remember correctly, there was a short scene of people filling out forms as guests walked into what I think was the studio. A perfect way to capture some specific data on some of the marks, I mean dupes, no I mean guests.
 
Tamazon said:
It also bothers me that it actually gives him more crediblity when he admits to all the things he doesn't know and that he could get things wrong. But even though when he does, he doesn't admit it, like in one of the videos when he asks the caller if there's a policeman connection and she says no, then he keeps saying "yes there is" over and over again.
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This seems to be a favourite technique of Edwards. Very often, he ends with 'if you don't see the connection now, think about it later. It will come to you.' Can't miss with that one!
 
bjb said:
.... Too bad you weren't allowed to point out the contradictions in John Edward's statements. He says he recieves 'mind pictures and feelings', but later, he's claims he's getting something that sound like 'joseph, james, jack, ...', a standard trick of cold reading. It was nice of Current Affair to edit that part of John Edward's show along with your comments on his use of the technique.
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Another contradiction was when explaining why the spirits don't tell him whether there is a heaven, he said that they have no time to speak to him, they've made it this far and just want to talk to their relative or friend.
Plausible, at a stretch, until the spirits start talking about broken toasters and unpaid bills. :rolleyes:

Good job btw Richard.

Just to add, John Edwards would make a fine Cliff Richard impersonator on Stars in their eyes

 
Do we think his wife is in on it? Or does she just look at her million dollars worth of house and smile sweetly:"Yes of course you talk to the dead darling"
 
Azrael 5 said:
Do we think his wife is in on it? Or does she just look at her million dollars worth of house and smile sweetly:"Yes of course you talk to the dead darling"
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I wonder about the children. Geller had the same situation (I think he as kids). Who knows? One day long after they are dead the children might spill the beans.

JE and Benny Hinn have learnt the lesson of Peter Popof. (He who God spoke to via a radio transmitter.) You don't need a gimmick or to cheat by using prior knowledge in order to do your show. Believers will believe in you no matter what. This is clear when we see JE in action. Question after question with one or two hits. That's all it takes. The Full Facts Book of Cold Reading points this out.

It is also worth remembering the lessons of "Carlos". Thousands of Australians thought he was the real thing and wrote-off the skeptics as cynics. How easy it is to fool believers.

Another thought and I guess I have been watching too much Sopranos..... if the mob ever thought that someone could talk with the dead, the very same dead they whacked... dead men tell no tales....
 
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*Talkin' his best Tony Soprano voice*

"Yo, I got 'dis 'ting I need you to take care of..."
 
Tamazon said:
Thank-you,

so in a nut-shell:

1. Hot-reading by gleaning information ahead of time from the audience via assistants chatting with them or bugging the studio.

2. Heavily editied.

3. Ringers in the audience.

I have noticed that in the videos of him doing live readings, he doesn't go into great detail and when he tries it's usually wrong. Like the suicide comment. Sheesh, what a pompous a-hole!

It also bothers me that it actually gives him more crediblity when he admits to all the things he doesn't know and that he could get things wrong. But even though when he does, he doesn't admit it, like in one of the videos when he asks the caller if there's a policeman connection and she says no, then he keeps saying "yes there is" over and over again.
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Tam - Don't forget the pre-show time (sometimes an hour or two), where people openly discuss (with staff members circulating) who they hope to contact.
 
ObscureReferenceMan said:
Tam - Don't forget the pre-show time (sometimes an hour or two), where people openly discuss (with staff members circulating) who they hope to contact.
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I added in link in Richard's other thread where a woman in the queue "sings like a canary" * .


*-I dunno if this is British slang,but it means can't keep her mouth shut and gives the game away type thing. :)
 
Just took a quick gander at the believer forum.
Two things -
Claus, is "Pam" the same Pam Blizzard who threatened you a couple of years ago?

And what is it with woos and their naff, annoying animated smilies? Doesn't seem to matter what species of nutjob they are - they love using those little buggers.
 
It sure sounds like her. She claims to have a husband who is a Marine sharpshooter who will come to visit you if you cross her.
 
Jeff Corey said:
It sure sounds like her. She claims to have a husband who is a Marine sharpshooter who will come to visit you if you cross her.
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Yup - that's what I remembered.
It is Pam Blizzard - if you click on the "My Location" link to the top right of one of her posts she has helpfully included her full name (and a photo) on the Googlemap.
 
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