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Joe Lieberman: The Jew who killed health-care reform?

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If this traitor from Connecticut, actually does help the Republicans kill health-care reform in the Senate, this is how he will be known..as the Jew who killed health care.

I pray, he comes to his senses. He is in the Senate because of the Democratic Party. He owes us more then to single-handedly kill the best chance we have had in 60 years for health-care reform.
 
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If the answer is: "it'll make anti-Semites hate the Jews even more" then no, I'd say more anti-Semites are anti-Obama and therefore anti-healthcare.
 
I really hope that the DNC picks up on this topic title for the next election season. That would be so awesome.
 
My least favorite aspect of the party system is this weird notion that voting "against" or "defecting" from your party makes one a traitor. In a perfect world, all politicians would be true independents and people would vote for them on the basis of their records, not what their not-so-hidden masters tell them to do.

That said, this is not an endorsement of Lieberman, per say.
 
Damn the man Jew for not voting lock-in-step with the party that kicked him the Jew out! Damn him the Jew!

Sarcasm aside, is being a moderate really that much of a sin? :confused:
 
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JAStewart said:
What does him being Jewish have to do with anything?
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for me? nothing. i am suggesting how anti-Semites will call him. liberal anti-Semites, that is.

do I believe that all Democrats should ALWAYS be loyal on legislation? no.

but this legislation us unlike any we have had before, and unlike any we may have in decades.

I hope Lieberman will let some form of a public-option pass, either in a trigger form, with the ability for states to opt out, but something.
 
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Sarcasm aside, is being a moderate really that much of a sin?
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Actually yes. If you've ever watched or listened to Rush Limbaugh he says that compromise is of no value and both sides have been known to call moderates bench sitters in order to demonize them for not being loyal to one party or another.

However, I do not agree with such notions.
 
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Eyeron said:
Actually yes. If you've ever watched or listened to Rush Limbaugh he says that compromise is of no value and both sides have been known to call moderates bench sitters in order to demonize them for not being loyal to one party or another.

However, I do not agree with such notions.
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Republicans call non-Conservatives:

"Republicans In Name Only" or RINOs.

they vehemently attacked the Republican candidate in the NY 23rd House race, because she dared to accept gay-marriage and abortion rights.

I believe that Democrats should not have to bow before EVERY single party platform, but should they join the Republicans to fillibuster Democratic legislation? that is going waaaaaaay too far.

sure, vote against it if you like, but be the deciding personality in a filibuster just ain't right.
 
parky76 said:
Republicans call non-Conservatives:

"Republicans In Name Only" or RINOs.

they vehemently attacked the Republican candidate in the NY 23rd House race, because she dared to accept gay-marriage and abortion rights.

I believe that Democrats should not have to bow before EVERY single party platform, but should they join the Republicans to fillibuster Democratic legislation? that is going waaaaaaay too far.

sure, vote against it if you like, but be the deciding personality in a filibuster just ain't right.
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As an Independent Senator, he is in a unique position of doing what he thinks is right. Dwell on that for a moment.

As a nation we have gotten far to involved in party politics. Deciding issues in a personal basis is no longer acceptable, one can only endorse the party platform. I've never heard the RINO term before, however I think it is just as ridiculous as your statement that Joe Lieberman (I - Connecticut) is going to far in opposing Democrat legislation. He's a freaking Senator. He should be doing as his conscious dictates, not what some party (that kicked him out [edit: I don't even know how to phrase this correctly, is kicked out right?]) wants him to do.
 
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parky76 said:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/08599193770500

If this traitor from Connecticut, actually does help the Republicans kill health-care reform in the Senate, this is how he will be known..as the Jew who killed health care.

I pray, he comes to his senses. He is in the Senate because of the Democratic Party. He owes us more then to single-handedly kill the best chance we have had in 60 years for health-care reform.
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Being Jewish has nothing to do with it. For some reason, some 'liberals' as they get older get more conservative. He appears to be one. You can only know his motivations and reasons if he cares to let you know. Until then, guessing is pointless.
 
Cynic said:
My least favorite aspect of the party system is this weird notion that voting "against" or "defecting" from your party makes one a traitor.
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Not really. If you are going to have party politics (and in the absense of every voter haveing perfect information on all the candidates you are) you might as well do them properly.

In a perfect world, all politicians would be true independents
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Not so. Perfect world and politicians do not generaly go together.

and people would vote for them on the basis of their records, not what their not-so-hidden masters tell them to do.
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Past records are only a limted predictor of future performance.
 
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