Axxman300
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JFK Conspiracy Theories VII: Late November back in '63...
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RoboTimbo
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Where did the shot come from?
smartcooky
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Irrelevant BS is irrelevant
(See what its like to have your opinions summarily dismissed?)
Axxman300
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Here's how it works...
We know a huge chunk of JFK's skull was blasted away, and the photographs of that wound are available on the net. So we know where the entry wound WAS NOT. When someone talked about near the top of the head in this case they didn't mean THE TOP.
We also know - THROUGH TESTIMONY - that they sawed the skull cap off, and worked carefully around the damaged portions. The kept the entry point intact.
The entry wound was about 2.5 cm. laterally and to the right, and slightly above the external occipital protuberance. That part of the skull is the triangular section of the back of the skull running from the base upward.
If you can't figure out where the bullet entered you have a problem.
Sure seems like Finck had a hard time remembering details. Explain why we would accept his admittedly spotty recollection over the photographs and x-rays.
Axxman300
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The great thing about the Elephant cabal (The Elephinatti)?
They work for peanuts.
They work for peanuts.
Axxman300
Philosopher
And it's not fair to Finck. This is what he said in 1992:
And:
Source: https://www.upi.com/Archives/1992/10/05/Third-JFK-pathologist-breaks-silence/9306718257600/
MJ has never revealed his credentials but I doubt he is qualified to apply a band aid, let alone understand the nuance of the jargon of pathology.
Steve
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Keeping the thread interesting.
MicahJava
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Where does it say that? Because the exact opposite is true.
RoboTimbo
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Hans
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Argue. Cite. Explain. Who is wrong - you or manifesto?
Asking a CT's to point out which one among two of them is wrong may evoke a rip in space time:
Beware!
Axxman300
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Where does it say what?
That they cut the skull cap with a bone saw, or that the entry wound is where they said it was on the autopsy?
I've posted the same link to Humes' testimony six different times across three different threads. If you haven't read them that is your failing.
MicahJava
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Actually quote Humes like you know the material.
RoboTimbo
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To be fair, you've never claimed to be well-read on the subject.
Axxman300
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I don't see why we're going back over your thesis, MJ. You spent months (more than a year?) on this list making the EOP argument once before. Have you got any better evidence or a more persuasive argument than the last time around? If not, why are we wasting each other's time? Do you have Ancient Mariner's syndrome?
bknight
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He has no new and persuasive arguments, just prolonging the discussion in hopes we will forget. That is the MO of both MJ and manifesto, draw out the discussion without ever solving any problem with their beliefs. Those beliefs have been beaten down so badly it makes one wonder why they continue. It certainly can't be seeking the truth, as neither know the truth. They are the torch bears for humanity.
That's why I wondered if MJ is afflicted with Ancient Mariner's syndrome--shorthand for the old sailor in Coleridge's poem who is compelled periodically to stop people randomly and tell them a long, obsessive story.
Axxman300
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His thesis has not changed from day one. Hank and I have been posting the testimony that counters his claim non-stop for over a year. He ignores it, or hand-waves it away. In the above post he asks me to quote the testimony, which I have done at least twice, and yet he seems shocked that the doctors said anything.
That is the problem when your starting point is "Everything the Government said was a lie". There is nowhere to go, nothing to draw from but CT-source material, and in most cases those books (which he didn't buy) were written to prove a conspiracy, and not to solve the murder.
It's the old, "They've stacked the odds against us" myth that allows CTists to wallow in their delusional thinking. The important details are ignored( the ballistics, the rifle, Oswald's actions before and after the assassination), and instead they focus on incongruities. In MJ's case he has grossly misread, and misinterpreted the autopsy, and the testimonies of the pathologists. We've seen him do the same in the 9/11 forum with WTC-7, and the technical data from the NIST report; another document he is not qualified to dispute, so he draws on the opinions of other CTists to base his claims on without understanding the source material, nor the underlying science behind it.
I'm not a doctor, or medical professional, so I have to accept the original autopsy results based on the fact that there are THREE PATHOLOGISTS'S SIGNATURES on the document. 3 pathologists were in the room working on JFK. It takes 11 to 14 years of medical school to become a pathologist, and that's 4 to 6 years longer than a typical MD. I hate going to the doctor because I enter a world where my knowledge is limited. On the other hand, I would never take medical advice from my barber, or my mechanic, or even my mom. Yet that is what MJ expects me and you all to do - take his layman's word for it.
That is the problem when your starting point is "Everything the Government said was a lie". There is nowhere to go, nothing to draw from but CT-source material, and in most cases those books (which he didn't buy) were written to prove a conspiracy, and not to solve the murder.
It's the old, "They've stacked the odds against us" myth that allows CTists to wallow in their delusional thinking. The important details are ignored( the ballistics, the rifle, Oswald's actions before and after the assassination), and instead they focus on incongruities. In MJ's case he has grossly misread, and misinterpreted the autopsy, and the testimonies of the pathologists. We've seen him do the same in the 9/11 forum with WTC-7, and the technical data from the NIST report; another document he is not qualified to dispute, so he draws on the opinions of other CTists to base his claims on without understanding the source material, nor the underlying science behind it.
I'm not a doctor, or medical professional, so I have to accept the original autopsy results based on the fact that there are THREE PATHOLOGISTS'S SIGNATURES on the document. 3 pathologists were in the room working on JFK. It takes 11 to 14 years of medical school to become a pathologist, and that's 4 to 6 years longer than a typical MD. I hate going to the doctor because I enter a world where my knowledge is limited. On the other hand, I would never take medical advice from my barber, or my mechanic, or even my mom. Yet that is what MJ expects me and you all to do - take his layman's word for it.
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