JFK Conspiracy Theories: It Never Ends

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JayUtah said:
Sorry, that's all you deserve. I write thoughtful, well-reasoned posts and you simply answer "Baloney." So if that's all the thought you're going to put into the debate, I'm going to write shorter, funnier posts for you to ignore. At least the other posters can giggle while you flee.
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Ah, but you are the one who flees, as anyone can plainly see.
 
HSienzant said:
lol. No, we went through this a while ago, you were unable to cite one legitimate expert who actually examined the first-generation originals who rendered an opinion they were forged in any way.
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Jay Utah brought up Jack White again. Just his routine dodge from more important issues. But you define the word "legitimate to your own ends.
 
HSienzant said:
All of what you quote from Cyril Wecht is hearsay and his opinion -- for example, "witnesses were asked to falsify affidavits" or "Documents are manipulated."

None of that would be admissible in court.

What would be admissible is Wecht's opinion concerning the wounds - as a board certified forensic pathologist, he is an expert in the field - and it was his opinion there was no evidence of a exit wound in the back of the head.
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That is false and not what he said.
 
Robert Prey said:
So,nether TomTom nor Jay can respond to Dr.Kemp Clark's WC statement. No surprise.
Nor has either offered a single medical witness that is consistent with the Ryberg Drawing. Not a surprise.

The crickets are still chirping. Checkmate.
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Is Checkmate your imaginery friend?
 
BStrong said:
H - I posted pics of a sporterized Mauser 7.65 and an Oswald Carcano clone earlier in the thread, as well as the statements that Robert is relying upon for his ID of rifle other than Oswald's Carcano at the TSBD - Robert still has no explanation for his reliance on non-admissable statements over the established ID and chain-of-custody of Oswald's Carcano.
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Chain of custody? Baloney.

"The possibility of a rifle substitution was even admitted by Dallas police chief Jesse Curry. In 1976 in an interview with the Detroit News Curry agreed, ' It's more than possible' the rifle found in the depository could have been exchanged for the gun now in the national archieves. Curry said anyone wanting to substitute one suspected murder weapon for another 'could have gotten away with it at the time." Because no special precautions were taken to isolate the weapon as historic evidence."

From Crossfire by Jim Mars.
 
Robert Prey said:
Chain of custody? Baloney.

"The possibility of a rifle substitution was even admitted by Dallas police chief Jesse Curry. In 1976 in an interview with the Detroit News Curry agreed, ' It's more than possible' the rifle found in the depository could have been exchanged for the gun now in the national archieves. Curry said anyone wanting to substitute one suspected murder weapon for another 'could have gotten away with it at the time." Because no special precautions were taken to isolate the weapon as historic evidence."

From Crossfire by Jim Mars.
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I wouldn't trust Mars to water my lawn, but keep digging your hole.
 
HSienzant said:
Robert, please do tell me what of the above is incorrect. Please cite the source for your assertions. If you don't cite a source, we'll know you're just stuck for an answer and have to resort to the everpresent "baloney" to have any response.




I noticed you did not "baloney" the point about Robert MacNeil. Was this an oversight on your part?
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Only one question at a time, please. One could hardly confuse the words "Made Italy,Cal 6.5 with Mauser 7.65.
 
Tomtomkent said:
Uh oh.... Kind of hard to examine the back of the presidents head when:

Mr. SPECTER - Was the President ever turned over while he was in the emergency room?
Dr. CLARK - Not in my presence; no, sir.
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Under oath and to the Warren Commission's Arlen Specter, Clark described his findings upon arrival to the emergency room, "I then examined the wound in the back of the President's head. This was a large, gaping wound in the right posterior part, with cerebral and cerebellar tissue being damaged and exposed." (WC--V6:20)
 
Tomtomkent said:
Wahites expertise is not a matter of opinion. He has made statements about the photographs. He has put his "method" on the record, and it is hugely and undoubtedly flawed. He admitted to the HSCA to having no understanding of the process or science behind photo analysis. He methodology involved placing a ruler on photos, was ignorant of perspective, and demonstratably wrong, as simple experiments repeated in this thread, proved.

You have it backwards. Jack White is proven to be no expert BECAUSE of, not INSPITE OF his methodology.
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That's all irrelevant to his findings which have been peer reviewed and mostly positively reviewed.
 
Robert Prey said:
Only one question at a time, please. One could hardly confuse the words "Made Italy,Cal 6.5 with Mauser 7.65.
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When you can prove that any such thing was discovered by your sources (remember, I posted their "Statemets" and there were no descriptive details provided whatsoever other than the rifle "appeared to be...") we can go from there.
 
Robert Prey said:
On the contrary, that's your opinion. Others disagree. In fact White has shown considerable expertise in pointing out anomalies in the B/Y photos and his work has been positively peer reviewed by other photo experts. But focusing on the word "expert" instead of on the subject matter is a way of evading the truth and in fact is fallacious reasoning of which you and Jay are indeed "expert."
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Pepperoni...

Nothing could be further form the truth, Whites work on the BY photos was awful and filled to the brim with ignorance of even the most basic of photographic principles.
 
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