Jews lie about Finland

[calebprime]

I know several Jews, and not one of them has ever mentioned Finland to me. Maybe Iceland, but never Finland.

I'm going to ask some of my neighbors.

and now for YouTube!

Happy Fun Wacky Break--as I think the catholic-school survivor* said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgTyVkpJY3g

*Harry Keogh-sp?

 

[JimBenArm]

A Jew did lie to me about Finland. There aren't any fins on it anywhere. Damned Jews! Can't count on them to tell the truth about anything!

 

[blobru]

All together now....
Monty Python Finland Lyrics:
Chorus: Finland, Finland, Finland.
The country where I want to be, ...

How about some new lyrics just for this thread!

(respectfully dedicated to timhau and all fans of the powder blue & white and what the hell is that yellow thing with the sword on the crest anyway? SUOMI)

Finland, Finland, Finland
The country where Jews quite want to be
Lighting up the Menorah
Observing Hannukah
Finland, Finland, Finland
Finland's no shiksa

Fought against the Red Army
With bullets and skis
"Let's all hide in the bushes
and try not to sneeze."

Finland, Finland, Finland
The country where Jews quite want to be
Playing hockey with dreydls
Plotzing for the face-off
Finland, Finland, Finland
Finland mazel tov

Let's let bygones be bygones -- feh!
Karelia, Holocaust -- everyone!
Be more like Rabbi Ruutu
And less like Jack Frost

Finland, Finland, Finland
The country where Jews quite want to be
Suomi are such mensches
And I'm not just patschkieing
Finland, Finland, Finland
It's good... am I lying?
It's good... am I lying? It's good... am I lying?
What, you think I should lie about something like this? Something so important, important to all Jews since the time of Pharaoh and the pyramids and slavery what with the whipping and dragging and plagues and Red Sea parting and all that farblondzhet meshugass, as Finland!? Gloib mir, kob fachadick...

 

[timhau]

How about some new lyrics just for this thread!

(respectfully dedicated to timhau and all fans of the powder blue & white and what the hell is that yellow thing with the sword on the crest anyway? SUOMI)

Why, thank you.

Oh, and that 'yellow thing' is a lion. Of course. When you think of Russia, you think of bears, when you think of Alaska, you think of caribou, when you think of Australia, you think of kangaroos, and when you think of Finland, you think of lions. Naturally.

 

[TX50]

Reporter: "Did it cause you any personal problems, shooting Russians like that?"

WW2 Finnish sniper: "Well yes, it did. The main problem I had was that
they tended to run in zig-zags and duck behind cover"

 

[blobru]

... Oh, and that 'yellow thing' is a lion. Of course. When you think of Russia, you think of bears, when you think of Alaska, you think of caribou, when you think of Australia, you think of kangaroos, and when you think of Finland, you think of lions. Naturally.

Yep. Lions... Jews... and the finest hobbit tonsil chili this side of Copenhagen. That's Finland.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Finland screwed up big time in WWII, but it was not so much that they were pro-Germany but rather it was that they were anti-Russia. Russia is on their eastrn border and they have had a long history of disputes and occasional war with them. Jews are just a little bit sensitive of anything that smacks of anti semitism during this time period (its funny how people react when someone tries to exterminate you and ends up killing 6 million of your people). Finland handed over 3,000 Russian prisoners of war to Germany. In the mix were about 70 Jews. Finland was not particularly anti semitic or pro semitic, they were anit Russian and they were just handing off prisoners of war to an ally. The article pointed out that these pointed out that these prisoners were carpenters etc etc and not political in anyway. But they were in the Russian army, even though they were conscripted into it, and were therefore prisoners of war, not political prisoners. Finland did protect its own Jewish population, but they did hand over 8 political refugees. I think that this latest discovery is much ado about nothing. An overreaction by a Jewish group that sees another affront against them when none was intended. The OP's complaint (and obvious anti semitism) is an even worse overreaction. This is definitely a case where time will heal this wound. I am sure that Finland's act of not treating Jewish prisoners of war any different from non Jewish ones will allow this to blow over with time. I am part Finnish by descent (heck I can even pronounce the word "sauna" correctly) and have relatives that are all Finn. It is a sad fact that Finland was on the wrong side in the war, they did treat their own Jewish population right, they did turn over a group of eight that they shouldn't have.

 

[Ordover]

Oh, I think Finland did a terrible job of participating in the Holocost. They protected all their Jewish citizens - that's a really bad job of trying to wipe them out.

One should remember that the United States turned away shiploads of Jewish refugees in the years before we entered the WW II.

 

[Vic Vega]

Oh, I think Finland did a terrible job of participating in the Holocost. They protected all their Jewish citizens - that's a really bad job of trying to wipe them out.

You're thinking of Denmark.

One should remember that the United States turned away shiploads of Jewish refugees in the years before we entered the WW II.

We remember. Our history classes and textbooks don't gloss over this, nor to they gloss over the treatment of the indigenous population or slavery or anything of the sort.

 

[timhau]

It is a sad fact that Finland was on the wrong side in the war

Given where we're located, I'm not sure there was a 'right' side available if we had to participate. And Stalin made that decision for us.

 

[timhau]

Oh, I think Finland did a terrible job of participating in the Holocost. They protected all their Jewish citizens - that's a really bad job of trying to wipe them out.

You're thinking of Denmark.

No, he is correct. Danish authorities rescued the majority of their Jewish citizens by shipping them away to safety when the occupying Nazis wanted to 'relocate' them in 1943. Finland was never occupied, so the local Jewish population was never under the same kind of threat.

 

[CFLarsen]

It was not the Danish authorities who rescued over 90% of all Danish Jews. At the time when the deportation of the Danish Jews were about to begin, the Danish government had already stepped down, and a group of department chiefs together with a secret group of 13 (not the Majestic 12!) politicians issued decrees when it was absolutely necessary.

The rescue mission was primarily due to an effort by the underground resistance movement, which in itself was made up by many independent groups, consisting of people from all layers of society. Until they could be shipped over, many Jews were kept hidden by people who were not in the resistance.

About 7000 Danish jews were rescued, while less than 500 was captured. None were sent to the gas chambers, but to Theresienstadt, where about 50 of them died.

 

[The Atheist]

Hasn't the blindingly obvious been missed here?

There was no Holocaust. That's plain from the single tag for the thread - holohoax - which tends to make me think the OP writer doesn't believe the Holocaust happened.

That being the case, transporting Jews to the Nazis is nothing to be ashamed of anyway. The Nazis treated Jewish prisoners well - I've seen the size of the shower rooms they used.

 

[ddt]

About 7000 Danish jews were rescued, while less than 500 was captured. None were sent to the gas chambers, but to Theresienstadt, where about 50 of them died.

But the fact that those Jews who were captured were sent to Theresienstadt and not to Auschwitz, and were visited there by the Danish Red Cross, was due to pressure from the Danish government.

 

[timhau]

It was not the Danish authorities who rescued over 90% of all Danish Jews.

OMG! A Finn lied about Jews! Someone, start a thread!

 

[CFLarsen]

By the time the ca. 500 Danish Jews were sent to Theresienstadt, there was no Danish government. Denmark was being "governed" by civil servants who made decisions on their own, with tacit permission from the Majestic 13.


I'm going to copyright that one. "The Majestic 13"....

 

[Vic Vega]

Finland was never occupied, so the local Jewish population was never under the same kind of threat.

That isn't exactly the same as protecting them, is it?

 

[timhau]

That isn't exactly the same as protecting them, is it?

Not in the same sense, that's true. However, if my memory serves, the Finnish government was under some (mild) pressure from the Germans over Finnish Jews, and some local hooligans even hijacked some members of the Helsinki Jewish congregation with the intent of shipping them to Germany (to certain death). The Finnish government didn't budge (and the Germans didn't push the issue); the hijacked folks were saved because the Helsinki police commissioner interfered personally before the ship could sail into the night.