JEROME - Life and Linear Time

sol invictus said:
I don't know of any. If you do, go ahead and tell us what it is.
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I am pretty sure that JdG saw that list of scientists and temperatures listed by Zuezzz, and latched onto it like a baby sloth clinging to its mother for dear life 100 feet up a tree.

He probably has no idea why the former predictions were even made, and will go ahead and say that any prior temperature prediction that is closer to the actual CMB temperature was more correct. He will completely disregard the nature of the prediction, and the fact that those early predictions did not deal with the radiation being isotropic.

He is not going to understand the argument and will go on berating everyone...
 
joobz said:
What cosmological model are you using to make that prediction?:D
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Its my secret CMBD model.

The Cosmic Microwave Behavioral Determinism model states that JdG will never admit that he was wrong about fusion, and will continue to do no research whatsoever on the topics which he argues so passionately.
 
Gate2501 said:
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and will continue to do no research whatsoever on the topics which he argues so passionately.
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Huh?

I've read quite a few of his posts, and I must say that I haven't seen him arguing passionately at all! :eye-poppi

Passionate argument, in my book, necessarily involves stating your beliefs, clearly, and forcefully presenting them, with corroborating evidence, logic, etc.

It also involves taking every opportunity to answer questions about those beliefs.

So far as I can see, JEROME has done almost none of this.

But maybe I missed some critical post or two ...
 
To the intelligent guys and girls here, who are trying to educate the deluded gnomes: I think it is time to let this thread die considering the person in question obviously doesn't base his beliefs on any kind of evidence, so providing him with concrete observational evidence against them is just not going to have any use.
But then again, if this thread had been allowed to die, we wouldn't have witnessed the hilarious fusion/fission blunder of this oh-so-intelligent know-it-all.
 
DeiRenDopa said:
Huh?

I've read quite a few of his posts, and I must say that I haven't seen him arguing passionately at all! :eye-poppi

Passionate argument, in my book, necessarily involves stating your beliefs, clearly, and forcefully presenting them, with corroborating evidence, logic, etc.

It also involves taking every opportunity to answer questions about those beliefs.

So far as I can see, JEROME has done almost none of this.

But maybe I missed some critical post or two ...
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I see your point...

Perhaps I should have said that he has a passion for arguing as opposed to a passionate argument.
 
theneedtoknow said:
To the intelligent guys and girls here, who are trying to educate the deluded gnomes: I think it is time to let this thread die considering the person in question obviously doesn't base his beliefs on any kind of evidence, so providing him with concrete observational evidence against them is just not going to have any use.
But then again, if this thread had been allowed to die, we wouldn't have witnessed the hilarious fusion/fission blunder of this oh-so-intelligent know-it-all.
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Well intelligent or not and deluded or not, I would still like to hear what Jerome considers would constitute circular time or an alternative to Big Bang and Steady State theories, hopefully presented in some clear and concise fashion, other then that I am always up for another good laugh.
 
RecoveringYuppy said:
Oh look, this isn't an argument. It's just contradiction.

Too bad it wasn't merely five minutes.
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Funny you should mention it. I keep imagining Jerome as John Cleese:



As amusing (and infuriating) as all this is, his "It's-Hip-To-Be-Contrarian" BS had gotten old back when he was denying evolution.
 
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The Man said:
Well intelligent or not and deluded or not, I would still like to hear what Jerome considers would constitute circular time or an alternative to Big Bang and Steady State theories, hopefully presented in some clear and concise fashion, other then that I am always up for another good laugh.
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I think we'd all be interested in that, but he clearly has no desire to actually provide any kind of alternative explanations to...well...anything. He just wants to blindly say "no" to everything without justification.
 
JEROME DA GNOME said:
Hence the BBT did not make a correct prediction and as such claiming that this correct prediction is evidence of its validity is false.


Feeling :boxedin:?
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The common tactic for believers is to ignore the evidence of the invalidity of their faith and malign the presenter of the invalidity of their theology.


Well done all!!!

You have evidenced that you can not support your faith!!!
 
JEROME DA GNOME said:
The common tactic for believers is to ignore the evidence of the invalidity of their faith and malign the presenter of the invalidity of their theology.


Well done all!!!

You have evidenced that you can not support your faith!!!
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Fission? Fusion? Comments?
 
Civilized Worm said:
Where's the evidence for your theories?
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Uhh, right here. This has been argeed by the proponets of BBT. They did think that they were arguing another point and just let it slip that the BBT did NOT predict correctly CBR temperature.


Hence the BBT did not make a correct prediction and as such claiming that this correct prediction is evidence of its validity is false.
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Once circular logic is exposed than the only alternative is to accept it or attack the messenger and ignore reality.
 
I'm not talking about negative evidence against our theories (and the theories of all reputable scientists), I'm asking for positive evidence in favour of your theories.
 
JEROME DA GNOME said:
The common tactic for believers is to ignore the evidence of the invalidity of their faith and malign the presenter of the invalidity of their theology.


Well done all!!!

You have evidenced that you can not support your faith!!!
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No one has presented any evidence to the invalidity of BBT ( I am assuming that is what you are talking about ).

Zuezzz has his own case, which I think is wrong, but at least the guy does research and tries to understand his position.

You do not research your positions at all, and you do not even understand your own position on these topics. In fact, I think that the only thing you do understand about your position is that *everyone else is wrong*.

So Jerome...

1. How about them fission/fusion comments?

2. How about your comment that the CMBR was predicted more accurately long before BBT? Even though those predictions were based on a local temperature estimation as opposed to the isotropic CMBR?
 
Gate2501 said:
No one has presented any evidence to the invalidity of BBT ( I am assuming that is what you are talking about ).
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Faith is blind.

So Jerome...

How about your comment that the CMBR was predicted more accurately long before BBT? Even though those predictions were based on a local temperature estimation as opposed to the isotropic CMBR?
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Ohh, now you are admitting that there were accurate predictions of the temp outside of BBT. Good to know that you are honest at least.
 
Civilized Worm said:
I'm not talking about negative evidence against our theories (and the theories of all reputable scientists), I'm asking for positive evidence in favour of your theories.
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Sorry, I have not presented a thoery. I am talking about discounting the BBT which is only held up on make-believe ideas at this point.

You believe the BBT? If so, you are going to have to beleive that 99% of the universe in unknown, unexplainable, and unmeasurable. Do you believe that?
 
Fitter said:
Fission? Fusion? Comments?
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He failed, you can try to change that all you want, it will not change. I am sorry that all the back-slapping went for naught when it was discovered that he failed. I understand that those that back-slapped feel the failure themselves when the truth is presented.




How can you not support the idea that BBT is also a failed idea outside of make-believe factors?
 
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