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JEROME - Black holes do not exist

Shalamar said:
Fascinating, So your claims that 'Gravity is not strong enough' along with your reluctance to show evidence of your claim... and yet, I lie? what an odd view of reality you have.

Since you are so much more knowledgeable than everyone here, and smarter than some of the gentlest minds in history, you will be willing to show your work, and proof or non every one is wrong about gravity, yes?


I can't wait.
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Please, tell me what specifically about gravity that you want me to disprove that you think I am stating.



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JEROME DA GNOME said:
Please, tell me what specifically about gravity that you want me to disprove that you think I am stating.
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Still waiting.....
What is the evidence for your claim that gravity is not strong enough?

Since your memory seems to be defective, here is the OP yet again:
In another thread, JEROME DA GNOME
Originally Posted by JEROME DA GNOME
Black holes are another made-up thought with no evidence. This idea seems to fit well with the BBT thus it is kept. Gravity is not strong enough and as such we need make-believe things to account for certain observations..
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This thread is here for JEROME DA GNOME to present arguments that black holes do not exist, to show that they are "another made-up thought with no evidence" or that gravity is not strong enough to form black holes.
 
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JEROME DA GNOME said:
Please, tell me what specifically about gravity that you want me to disprove that you think I am stating.
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Why certainty!


http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=3815074#post3815074


JEROME DA GNOME said:
What is the evidence that it is strong enough?


...because the planets do orbit is not valid. There are many theories that could fulfill this fact.
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Many here hare shown how you can measure the force of gravity. You deny it is not strong enough. So, I wait for you to show what is strong enough. I really would like to see your evidence, and math.
 
Reality Check said:
This thread is here for JEROME DA GNOME to present arguments that black holes do not exist, to show that they are "another made-up thought with no evidence" or that gravity is not strong enough to form black holes.
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But if we call him out on it, we're accused of lying. sniff.
 
Shalamar said:
Many here hare shown how you can measure the force of gravity. You deny it is not strong enough. So, I wait for you to show what is strong enough. I really would like to see your evidence, and math.
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We do need to be on the same page for this type of exercise.

Define gravity and present it's function.

Please, show your math and evidence..


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JEROME DA GNOME said:
We do need to be on the same page for this type of exercise.

Define gravity and present it's function.

Please, show your math and evidence..
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity

It's not my work. I'm not a physist. But that explanation should be enough. As for the math, this thread is littered with it. Complete with evidence. You forget so soon?

Where is your evidence?
 
JEROME DA GNOME said:
We do need to be on the same page for this type of exercise.

Define gravity and present it's function.

Please, show your math and evidence..

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I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm getting dizzy from watching all this circular argumentation...
 
JEROME DA GNOME said:
Still waiting......
What is the evidence for your claim that gravity is strong enough?
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You first since it is your claim.

Still waiting.......
What is the evidence for your claim that gravity is not strong enough?

But since your memory is nonexistent (I wonder why?) refer to the evidence for the supermassive black hole at the center of the galaxy in this thread.
 
MattusMaximus said:
I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm getting dizzy from watching all this circular argumentation...
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Well Jerome is just a silly troll so it is to be expected.

At least I hope that Jerome is a troll because the alternatives are an abysmal degree of ignorance or some serious mental or physical problems, e.g. Alzheimer's disease might explain the lack of memory.
 
Your assertion that…

JEROME DA GNOME said:
Gravity is not a measurable force.
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Indicates a lack of evidence, in your perception, as to the strength of gravity, so your initial assertion, that helped start this thread…

JEROME DA GNOME said:
Gravity is not strong enough and as such we need make-believe things to account for certain observations.
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Only drives from a lack of evidence, both for and against that assertion. This demonstrates that what you choose to assert is not based on evidence or the lack thereof, but simply on your personal predilections of what you choose to assert at any given time.

So your more recent assertion…

JEROME DA GNOME said:
I also do not accept Santa Claus nor the Easter Bunny based upon the same reasoning.
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Lacks the same bases on evidence or the lack thereof, within your own perceptions, as do most of your assertions, it seems the only things you assert are those, that within your own perceptions, have no evidence.

That, sir, is a “Troll” or “Gnome” as you seem to prefer.
 
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JEROME DA GNOME said:
I recommend you find the quote of me stating such and you may find your answer.

There is a search function here, yes?
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Search function? It's in the first post of this thread!! :rolleyes:

But just for the sake of complete fairness, I've also included the post you were responding to.

Dancing David said:
Just for conversations sake, and that is my goal. Let us start with black holes. How do you feel about them. As an implied part of general relativity and then as a candidate for a large massive object in a very small area (as hypothesized from say the orbits of stars at the center of our galaxy).

JEROME DA GNOME said:
Black holes are another made-up thought with no evidence. This idea seems to fit well with the BBT thus it is kept. Gravity is not strong enough and as such we need make-believe things to account for certain observations.
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Jerome, it is fine to doubt dark matter and that is cool, yet there are some things that might need an explanation. Such as why star cluster orbit the galaxy faster than they should. Now currently MOND might explain that but it has some other problems and the PC/PU stuff just doesn't cut it for the outer stars clusters. So which one do you prefer, the dark matter or modified gravity? Or do you have an alternate like Perrat's model that you prefer?

Please define your acronyms.
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It seems like you are saying that black holes are made up and that gravity isn't strong enough to form them, but you stipulated earlier in this thread that you considered that black holes are possible, but there's no direct evidence for them. So I'm confused. If they're possible, then how can you say that gravity isn't strong enough. If, on the other hand, you were referring to something else, then what were you referring to? The outer velocity curves of galaxies?

As is so often the case, your response was too obtuse to make it clear what you were talking about. So please, make a clear, unambiguous statement.

What is gravity not strong enough to do?
 
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