Jeremy Bamber

[catsmate]

Stan* Jones said murder suicide.
A younger detective also called Jones got side tracked by behavioral suppositions and went right down the rabbit hole.
Early in the investigations Stan Jones fell off a ladder and died.
For more detailed evidence check my signature line.

* The only error in my account maybe misnaming the Joneses.

I repeat; What is this semi-random assemblage of words supposed to mean?

 

[IsThisTheLife]

The story is that Bamber thought he could massacre his family including, just for the hell of it, his two young nephews in cold blood and then frame his sister. How credulous does one have to be to believe that?

 

[catsmate]

The story is that Bamber thought he could massacre his family including, just for the hell of it, his two young nephews in cold blood and then frame his sister. How credulous does one have to be to believe that?

Oh look, more puerile trolling!! How silly does one have to be to engage in that..............

 

[Samson]

Oh look, more puerile trolling!! How silly does one have to be to engage in that..............

Yet credulous is a thing.
I think the Life means

"What could possibly go wrong in the plan"?

Answer:

Just about everything. Yet the required occurrence of things going wrong is zero.

 

[catsmate]

Yet credulous is a thing.
I think the Life means

"What could possibly go wrong in the plan"?

Answer:

Just about everything. Yet the required occurrence of things going wrong is zero.

Have you considered thinking through what you're trying to say before posting more random phrases?

 

[IsThisTheLife]

If you could say which sentences you're having trouble parsing, perhaps I could explain them to you?

ETA >> I'll do so anyway;

we're to understand that Jeremy Bamber set about committing one of the worst mass murders in UK history and then expected (hoped) that he would get away with it by "staging" the carnage to make it look his sister done it.

My question would be;

just how stupid would he have to be to imagine he would succeed, and just how credulous do people have to be to accept that he is indeed that stupid?

 

[Samson]

If you could say which sentences you're having trouble parsing, perhaps I could explain them to you?

ETA >> I'll do so anyway;

we're to understand that Jeremy Bamber set about committing one of the worst mass murders in UK history and then expected (hoped) that he would get away with it by "staging" the carnage to make it look his sister done it.

My question would be;

just how stupid would he have to be to imagine he would succeed, and just how credulous do people have to be to accept that he is indeed that stupid?

Intruigingly successive home secretaries have lovingly embraced not considering your specific concern.

 

[jeremyp]

If you could say which sentences you're having trouble parsing, perhaps I could explain them to you?

ETA >> I'll do so anyway;

we're to understand that Jeremy Bamber set about committing one of the worst mass murders in UK history and then expected (hoped) that he would get away with it by "staging" the carnage to make it look his sister done it.

My question would be;

just how stupid would he have to be to imagine he would succeed, and just how credulous do people have to be to accept that he is indeed that stupid?

Otherwise intelligent people sometimes do really stupid things. I have no problem accepting that he slaughtered all of those people and then tried to frame one of them. He was a desperate man trying to avoid going to prison for a long time.

 

[IsThisTheLife]

Otherwise intelligent people sometimes do really stupid things. I have no problem accepting that he slaughtered all of those people and then tried to frame one of them. He was a desperate man trying to avoid going to prison for a long time.

Bamber has had many psychological evaluations, including one over a period of c. two weeks with dozens of hours of face-to-face conversation - no trace of a personality disorder has ever been found in him.

Could you explain how you have "no problem" believing that he could kill three adults and two young children in cold blood, since presumably that would require a severe personality disorder?

 

[IsThisTheLife]

Otherwise intelligent people sometimes do really stupid things. I have no problem accepting that he slaughtered all of those people and then tried to frame one of them. He was a desperate man trying to avoid going to prison for a long time.

???? You mean, for the murders? LoL.

 

[lionking]

Could you explain how you have "no problem" believing that he could kill three adults and two young children in cold blood, since presumably that would require a severe personality disorder?

What? Murderers require personality disorders?

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[RolandRat]

Otherwise intelligent people sometimes do really stupid things. I have no problem accepting that he slaughtered all of those people and then tried to frame one of them. He was a desperate man trying to avoid going to prison for a long time.

Absolutely. Lots of murderers do stupid things in the hope they get away with it. Emotion can easily over-rule intelligence.

 

[IsThisTheLife]

What? Murderers require personality disorders?

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Yes, it requires a personality disorder to commit murder (let alone mass murder) in cold blood.

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[IsThisTheLife]

Let's get something straight here; is the contention that it is possible for an individual with no sign of psychosis (mental derangement, insanity, whatever you want to call it) or psychopathy to plan and commit mass murder?

 

[IsThisTheLife]

Or is it that there a psychiatric condition called "evul"?

 

[IsThisTheLife]

Since arguing with facts on this topic (and many others) appears to be an exercise in futility (and once one is familiar with the facts of the White House Farm massacre the conclusion to be drawn should be obvious), it's hard not to wonder about the psychology of those who insist on Bamber's guilt, IOW who support the state unquestioningly. Which of course is ad-hominem by definition.

 

[RolandRat]

Let's get something straight here; is the contention that it is possible for an individual with no sign of psychosis (mental derangement, insanity, whatever you want to call it) or psychopathy to plan and commit mass murder?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20004282/

"According to the definition of Hodgins, only 15% of murderers have a major mental disorder (schizophrenia, paranoia, melancholia). Mental disorder increases the risk of homicidal violence by two-fold in men and six-fold in women."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/08/...iatrist,have any severe, diagnosable disorder.

"It is true that severe mental illnesses are found more often among mass murderers. About one in five are likely psychotic or delusional, according to Dr. Michael Stone, a forensic psychiatrist at Columbia University who maintains a database of 350 mass killers going back more than a century. The figure for the general public is closer to 1 percent.

But the rest of these murderers do not have any severe, diagnosable disorder. "

 

[catsmate]

If you could say which sentences you're having trouble parsing, perhaps I could explain them to you?

ETA >> I'll do so anyway;

we're to understand that Jeremy Bamber set about committing one of the worst mass murders in UK history and then expected (hoped) that he would get away with it by "staging" the carnage to make it look his sister done it.

My question would be;

just how stupid would he have to be to imagine he would succeed, and just how credulous do people have to be to accept that he is indeed that stupid?

Arrogant, self-centred, psychopathic and rather stupid. E.g. Bamber.

Will you be addressing the array of evidence of Bamber's guilt? Or continuing you silly nonsense....

 

[IsThisTheLife]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20004282/

"According to the definition of Hodgins, only 15% of murderers have a major mental disorder (schizophrenia, paranoia, melancholia). Mental disorder increases the risk of homicidal violence by two-fold in men and six-fold in women."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/08/...iatrist,have any severe, diagnosable disorder.

"It is true that severe mental illnesses are found more often among mass murderers. About one in five are likely psychotic or delusional, according to Dr. Michael Stone, a forensic psychiatrist at Columbia University who maintains a database of 350 mass killers going back more than a century. The figure for the general public is closer to 1 percent.

But the rest of these murderers do not have any severe, diagnosable disorder. "

So 'Evul' is a psychiatric diagnosis then?

 

[lionking]

Bamber remains a murderer. May he rot in prison.