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Merged Jeffrey MacDonald did it. He really did.

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HENRIBOY:
The fact that the defense only requested exemplars from two members of the Stoeckley Seven, speaks to the defense team's lack of confidence that Perry, Harris, Smith, Fowler and yes, Mazzerolle had any involvement in this horrific crime. Heck, the defense never even attempted to contact Perry, Harris, Smith, Fowler and yes, Mazzerolle for permission to provide DNA samples to the AFIP.

It took several months for you to admit that no lab documentation exists that sources a known intruder suspect to this crime. It has now been a few weeks since I issued a new challenge, yet you have failed to provide documentation that proves the CID and FBI failed to investigate a viable intruder suspect.

Considering the depth and scope of the CID's 4 year reinvestigation and the FBI's 3 year investigation into suspects not named Jeffrey MacDonald, I would wager it's going to take another several months before you admit that you cannot come up with the goods.

Two days away from the government pounding the final nail in inmate's legal coffin.

http://www.macdonaldcasefacts.com

There is exculpatory forensic evidence in the MacDonald case, but it has been disregarded. There were black wool fibers with no known source around the mouth of Colette and on her arm and on the murder weapon. There were blonde synthetic hair-like fibers found which was withheld at the MacDonald trial. There was candle wax found which the Army CID lab said was not MacDonald candle wax. I think there was a match, or matches, found when the MacDonald family did not use matches. An expert at the trial said that the surgical glove fragment did not come from a MacDonald glove.

The investigation of suspects by the FBI was a poor investigation and only really happened when MacDonald was imprisoned. Those suspects only had to keep their mouths shut and say they couldn't remember or recall anything and they were excluded as suspects by the FBI. Mazerolle is being protected by the drug barons in the Army CID and CIA who don't want the truth to come out. The reinvestigation was Stombaugh of the FBI only said it could be and the same with the threads.

Circumstantial evidence is good enough if there is no DNA or fingerprints linking a suspect to a crime. I am not sure if those suspects could have been forced to provide DNA samples if they didn't want to under American law at the time. It was only because Helena Stoeckley refused to confess in court for obvious reasons that MacDonald's defense collapsed.

There is a bit about this matter on the internet:

"The Innocence Project had this to say on the case
Since MacDonald was convicted of the murders in 1979, considerable evidence of his innocence has come to light. Most recently, retired US Marshall Jimmy Britt came forward with information that another suspect in the case, Helena Stoeckley, admitted to the prosecutor that she was in the house on the night of MacDonald’s murder and that he threatened to indict her for first degree murder if she admitted that in court. In addition, DNA testing on evidence that was recovered from the fingernails scrapings of one of the victims and a hair found under another victim did not match MacDonald. Earlier, evidence came to light that a FBI forensic examiner mislead the jury about synthetic hair evidence. MacDonald claimed the hairs were from the wig of one of the murders, but the forensic examiner incorrectly claimed they were from one of the children’s dolls."
 
The investigation of suspects by the FBI was a poor investigation and only really happened when MacDonald was imprisoned.

When was MacDonald imprisoned between his resignation of his Army commission and the grand jury hearing in 1975? Dates & location, please.
 
On Britt: He only found his conscience after the paperwork that proved he was lying about being Helena's escort to North Carolina was scheduled to be destroyed (and the death of his supposed partner in the trip). He should have verified its destruction before perjuring himself, because it was not destroyed and showed that others were officers involved - he only dealt with Helena after she was transported to NC, not on a long drive there.
 
Jimmy Britt lied, committed perjury, he should have been prosecuted for it too! Guess he died at the right time to keep that from being an option.

There is NO EXCULPATORY evidence. There is lots and lots and lots of INCULPATORY evidence. All the SOURCED evidence points to inmate as the sole murderer. I know you hate to hear the FACTS but these ARE the FACTS.
 
There is exculpatory forensic evidence in the MacDonald case, but it has been disregarded. There were black wool fibers with no known source around the mouth of Colette and on her arm and on the murder weapon. There were blonde synthetic hair-like fibers found which was withheld at the MacDonald trial. There was candle wax found which the Army CID lab said was not MacDonald candle wax. I think there was a match, or matches, found when the MacDonald family did not use matches. An expert at the trial said that the surgical glove fragment did not come from a MacDonald glove.

The investigation of suspects by the FBI was a poor investigation and only really happened when MacDonald was imprisoned. Those suspects only had to keep their mouths shut and say they couldn't remember or recall anything and they were excluded as suspects by the FBI. Mazerolle is being protected by the drug barons in the Army CID and CIA who don't want the truth to come out. The reinvestigation was Stombaugh of the FBI only said it could be and the same with the threads.

Circumstantial evidence is good enough if there is no DNA or fingerprints linking a suspect to a crime. I am not sure if those suspects could have been forced to provide DNA samples if they didn't want to under American law at the time. It was only because Helena Stoeckley refused to confess in court for obvious reasons that MacDonald's defense collapsed.

There is a bit about this matter on the internet:

1st bolded: What you believe is exculpatory evidence was discredited during the various trials and appeals that JM's publicity machine has cranked out. Discredited and disregarded are not interchangeable terms.

2nd bolded: assertion does not carry any weight. If you have proof other than your particular pov and innuendo, post it. Anon chatter on the net does not constitute evidence.

3rd bolded: Circumstantial evidence? as in the flights of fancy that you wish to believe? The physical evidence was sufficient to secure the conviction. If you believe story telling beats forensics you have the wrong hobby.

4th bolded: Read as: Stockley didn't and couldn't provide coherent testimony. The fact that Stockley told different stories at different times to different investigators makes any testimony that she gave less than credible. Gunderson worked her and surprise! he got a confession out of her. The fact is Gunderson had less credibility than Stockley means that between the two of 'em they don't make one credible statement.

5th bolded: Do I even need to say it at this point? Internet chatter isn't evidence. Dogs barking in the distance have more credibility than internet chatter and at this point I'd take a barking dog as a source over you.
 
1st bolded: What you believe is exculpatory evidence was discredited during the various trials and appeals that JM's publicity machine has cranked out. Discredited and disregarded are not interchangeable terms.

The exculpatory evidence was never discredited. It was just illegally withheld at the MacDonald trial in order to sway the jury and the 4th Circuit appeal judges and the Supreme Court against Jeff MacDonald. It was clearly erroneous by Judge Dupree.

There is more about this matter at this website:

www.justicedenied.org/wordpress/archives/311

Stoeckley passed polygraph tests in 1971 and 1982, and she signed several statements that she was present during the murders. Stoeckley implicated Greg Mitchell as one of the murderers, and MacDonald’s habeas included affidavits from three friends of Mitchell who attested in 2005 that he confessed to them that he committed the murders. The affidavits are consistent with Stoeckley and Mitchell’s confessions, crime scene evidence supporting Mitchell’s presence at the crime scene, and MacDonald’s description of the intruders. Mitchell was also seen near a farmhouse that had the words “I KILLED MACDONALD’S WIFE AND CHILDREN” freshly painted on the interior wall. Mitchell died in 1982 at the age of 32 from liver disease. Stoeckley died a year later in 1983, also from cirrhosis of the liver.

MacDonald’s habeas included a request for DNA testing of all biological evidence in the case. In October 1997, the 4th Circuit remanded the matter of DNA testing back to the federal judge who denied the request for DNA testing. After some legal proceedings, the judge determined exculpatory DNA results could entitle MacDonald to relief and ordered the prosecution to file an answer. The government opposed any DNA testing, but the judge eventually ordered DNA testing of some 15 hair exhibits, but he did not order the testing of any blood evidence.

In March 2006, more than eight years after the DNA testing was ordered, the test results were released. Three pieces of evidence were exculpatory. A human hair recovered from under the fingernail of MacDonald’s 2-1/2 year-old daughter Kristen did not match him, his family, or any of the other samples submitted for testing. Another hair, found on Kristen’s bed also did not match MacDonald, his family, or any other sample submitted for testing. A third human hair, found underneath the body of his wife Colette, likewise did not match MacDonald, his family, or any other sample submitted for testing. The logical presumption is the three hairs came from the assailant who killed the family, and they were consistent with Britt’s affidavit concerning Stoeckley’s admissions to him, Mitchell’s confessions, and MacDonald’s description of the intruder’s attack on his family.

In March 2007 Stoeckley’s mother executed an affidavit that her daughter confided in her on two occasions that she had been present when Mitchell, who was her boyfriend at the time, murdered the three MacDonald family members with the help of another man.

In November 2008 MacDonald’s 2006 habeas petition was denied by the district court judge. In doing so the judge refused to consider the exculpatory DNA results obtained after the filing of the habeas, the three affidavits by Mitchell’s friends implicating him as the murderer, the affidavit by Stoeckley’s mother, and other statements and physical evidence suppressed by the government at trial.

MacDonald appealed that decision to the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals. In his brief filed on February 19, 2009 he argues that the new evidence supports his actual innocence of the murders, and the judge erred in not considering the exculpatory DNA evidence, and the affidavit’s implicating Mitchell as the murderer. Although the judge found Marshal Britt’s sworn recollections to be true, MacDonald argues that the judge not consider the “totality of the evidence” as mandated by House v. Bell, No. 04-8990 (U.S. 06/12/2006).
 
The exculpatory evidence was never discredited. It was just illegally withheld at the MacDonald trial in order to sway the jury and the 4th Circuit appeal judges and the Supreme Court against Jeff MacDonald. It was clearly erroneous by Judge Dupree.

There is more about this matter at this website:

www.justicedenied.org/wordpress/archives/311

As usual, you have no idea what you're asserting past the fact you agree with it.

Tell the readers in your own words why the evidence you wish to cite is exculpatory, using actual facts in evidence. Nobody cares that some other individual on the 'net holds the same deluded opinion that you do. Repeating what one or more of these individuals has posted on the 'net is not producing evidence to support your assertion.
 
Rinse And Repeat

HENRIBOY: You've already admitted that you cannot produce a single lab document sourcing an evidentiary item to a known intruder suspect, so your only option is to regurgitate debunked defense claims. Not only is your rinse and repeat philosophy a complete joke, you have a penchant for fabrication and are too lazy to fact-check the claims leveled in the articles that you find so compelling.

Speaking of your prevalence for replacing fact with fiction, MacDonald was not incarcerated when the FBI completed not one, but two investigations. Inmate was a free man when the FBI analyzed the physical evidence in this case in 1971, and when the FBI interviewed ALL of the potential suspects in 1981 and 1982. This included your favorite red herrings, Greg Mitchell and Allen Mazzerolle. Both Mitchell and Mazzerolle signed statements denying any involvement in the murders. Mazzerolle also provided the FBI with fingerprint exemplars and none of Mazzerolle's prints matched the 30 unsourced prints found at the crime scene.

In regards to your inherent laziness, the article you quote is filled with errors. Stoeckley did not pass the 1971 polygraph exam administered by Robert Brisentine. He determined that the results of the exam were inconclusive due to Stoeckley's excessive substance use. Stoeckley did not take a polygraph exam in 1982. Scott Mero administered two exams in 1980. Stoeckley passed Phase One of the exam and she flunked Phase Two.

The 2005 affidavits produced by acquaintances of Mitchell are not consistent with Stoeckley's claims nor is there any signed confessions produced by Greg Mitchell. The only signed statements by Mitchell include his denials to the CID in 1971, and the FBI in 1981, of having any involvement in the murders.

There is no crime scene evidence supporting Mitchell's presence at the crime scene. No DNA; no hairs; no fibers; no fingerprints; nothing; nada; zip. Mrs. Cullity's fantasy narrative abut freshly painted words on a farmhouse lacks any corroboration. Not only did she produce several versions of this story (e.g., words written in paint or blood?), when the police subsequently checked the farmhouse, this message had mysteriously disappeared.

By 1999, the government did not oppose DNA testing and the reason why Judge Fox did not order the testing of blood evidence was due to the fact that blood exemplars were used up at the 1970 autopsies. The remaining claims in the article clearly demonstrate that the article was written more than two years before the 2012 evidentiary hearing took place.

That is significant for the hearing and subsequent government briefs thoroughly rebut ALL of the DNA arguments and further demonstrate that ALL of Stoeckley's claims lack merit. Two days away from the government putting the final nail in the Ice Pick Baby Killer's legal coffin.

http://www.macdonaldcasefacts.com
 
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I don't have very great confidence in English justice, or American justice. Donald Trump needs to have a thorough grasp of the subject so that he can get innocent people out of prison.

There is a bit about this matter from a book called the Rule of Law by a former British judge called Tom Bingham:

For the first thirty years of the twentieth century attempts to provide legal assistance for criminal defendants who could not afford it were largely frustrated by official hostility and the obstructiveness of magistrates and judges. Well after the middle of the century, it was the practice of some trial judges to sum up to juries in favour of conviction in highly tendentious, sometimes even rhetorical terms, mitigated only by reminders that of course the facts were a matter for the jury.

In more recent times, the lack of an obligation on the prosecution to disclose material in their possession has led to notorious miscarriages of justice. In some countries (some of the Southern States of the United States and parts of the Caribbean), the poor quality of defence representation is a source of unfairness...........

What makes the difference between Good and Bad Government? I would answer no doubt predictably: the rule of law. The concept of the rule of law is not fixed for all time. Some countries do not subscribe to it fully, and some subscribe only in name, if that. Even those who do subscribe to it find it difficult to apply all its precepts quite all the time.. But in a world divided by differences of nationality, race, colour, religion and wealth it is one of the greatest unifying factors, perhaps the greatest, the nearest we are likely to approach to a universal secular religion. It remains an ideal, but an ideal worth striving for, in the interests of good government and peace, at home and in the world at large.
 
HENRIBOY:
In regards to your inherent laziness, the article you quote is filled with errors. Stoeckley did not pass the 1971 polygraph exam administered by Robert Brisentine. He determined that the results of the exam were inconclusive due to Stoeckley's excessive substance use. Stoeckley did not take a polygraph exam in 1982. Scott Mero administered two exams in 1980. Stoeckley passed Phase One of the exam and she flunked Phase Two.
http://www.macdonaldcasefacts.com

That's not absolutely correct. The FACTS and documentation are at this website:

www.thejeffreymacdonaldcase.com/html/1-1971-04-23-24-stoeckley-poly.html
 
I don't have very great confidence in English justice, or American justice. Donald Trump needs to have a thorough grasp of the subject so that he can get innocent people out of prison.

There is a bit about this matter from a book called the Rule of Law by a former British judge called Tom Bingham:

In the U.S. we have the Brady Rule of Evidence:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/brady_rule

It's applied across the board.

The fact that your favorite murderer is still behind bars doesn't mean the criminal justice system is inadequate.
 
Facing Reality

BSTRONG: Unfortunately, Henriboy has his own personal definition of exculpatory evidence and that definition doesn't include evidence sourced to a specific individual. Fortunately, inmate's lawyers only have hearsay testimony and tenuous evidentiary links in their legal toolbox. IMO, that will not be enough to grant inmate a new trial. Tomorrow morning, John Stuart Bruce will again demonstrate the specious nature of the claims put forth by inmates band of rotating lawyers.

http://www.macdonaldcasefacts.com
 
BSTRONG: Unfortunately, Henriboy has his own personal definition of exculpatory evidence and that definition doesn't include evidence sourced to a specific individual. Fortunately, inmate's lawyers only have hearsay testimony and tenuous evidentiary links in their legal toolbox. IMO, that will not be enough to grant inmate a new trial. Tomorrow morning, John Stuart Bruce will again demonstrate the specious nature of the claims put forth by inmates band of rotating lawyers.

http://www.macdonaldcasefacts.com

to the bolded comment above I say "from this page to God's ear!"

Sadly I do not feel as if the 4th Circuit is interested in the truth, otherwise why would they keep giving inmate more bites of the apple? Judge Fox followed their commands, reviewed everything with "an eye toward the evidence as a whole" and made a just and rational decision. Including a NO on certificate of appealability....yet they (4th Circuit) approved another appeal. wth?
 
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In the U.S. we have the Brady Rule of Evidence:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/brady_rule

It's applied across the board.

The fact that your favorite murderer is still behind bars doesn't mean the criminal justice system is inadequate.

I'm fully aware of the Brady Rule of Evidence in the U.S. The theory of it is that any exculpatory evidence favorable to the defendant is presented in a court case and not deliberately withheld to sway a jury by trickster prosecution lawyers, and a biased trial judge, as happened in the MacDonald case. The Brady Rule needs to be enforced in American courts. There were Brady violations in the MacDonald case, and no sanctions or punishment for the lawyers involved.
 
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Oh boy another one of henri's rants that offer NO TRUTH. The defense TRIED years ago to claim that the prosecution withheld evidence. NO BRADY VIOLATIONS WERE FOUND.

There are sanctions/punishments for lawyers found to violate the Brady Law. The reason no lawyer in this case was so treated is because they had not violate the Brady Law. It really is that simple.
 
Oh boy another one of henri's rants that offer NO TRUTH. The defense TRIED years ago to claim that the prosecution withheld evidence. NO BRADY VIOLATIONS WERE FOUND.

There are sanctions/punishments for lawyers found to violate the Brady Law. The reason no lawyer in this case was so treated is because they had not violate the Brady Law. It really is that simple.

Just having a violent prejudice about all this and listening to some silly judges from bad courts in North Carolina doesn't necessarily make it true. The information about black wool fibers with no known source, and blond synthetic hair like fibers with no known source was known to the prosecution and deliberately withheld from the MacDonald lawyers and MacDonald forensic experts by Murtagh and Blackburn. They had to discover the exculpatory evidence later on by the Freedom of Information Act by which time it was all too late under the time limits that existed then.

Dr. Thornton was never given access to Stombaugh's lab notes until half way through the trial so there was no way he could dispute the notes in court.

This is part of what the Fatal Jusice book thinks about Stombaugh of the FBI:

"During preliminary quesitoning at the trial . . . Stombaugh said he received his bachelor of science degree in 1949 from Furman University in Greenville, South Carolina, with a major in biology and a minor in chemistry . . . a defense reseracher contacted Furman University seeking facts. Thus, when Segal began his cross-examination, he was armed with new information and attempted to show through questioning that Stombaugh had received only one year of instructin in chemistry, that his chemistry grade had been minimal, and his grade in physics had been even worse. But Judge Dupree, visibly angry at such attempts to discredit the former head of the FBI lab's chemistry section, quickly cut the effort short."

MacDonald's lawyers accepted Stombaugh as an expert, and the jury found Stombaugh to be credible.
 
This is part of what former MacDonald lawyer Harvey Silverglate has said in the past about the Brady violations in the MacDonald case:

My first truly searing experience with federal prosecutors violating the Brady rule continues to sear today, nearly a quarter century after I was introduced to the case of United States v. Jeffrey R. MacDonald. Having practiced criminal defense law since 1967, I have, of course, run across the usual array of Brady violations, but nothing I saw before MacDonald, and nothing since, has disgusted me in the same way.
 
This is part of what former MacDonald lawyer Harvey Silverglate has said in the past about the Brady violations in the MacDonald case:

The quote would be a valid complaint if the reason MacDonald's defense at trial hadn't seen the evidence was because of the prosecution. Fact is, it was Segal's fault because Segal (in violation of protocols regarding evidence) wanted the evidence shipped from the east coast (NC) to the west coast (CA). You don't get to refuse to go to the party and then complain because you weren't invited. Therefore, all this BS about "illegally withheld evidence" is just that.

MacDonald tossed out much, if not all, of the family items before they could be compared to the black wool. If he now wishes to complain that there is no exemplar available, it's because he made the comparisons impossible. Again, he was invited to the party. The synthetic blonde fibers are either from wigs/falls that Colette owned or the dolls belonging to the girls. Either way, they are irrelevant by YOUR STANDARDS BECAUSE YOUR GURU OF TRUTH HELENA STOEKLEY SAID SHE WASN'T WEARING HER BLONDE WIG THAT NIGHT.
 
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and the saran fibers ARE IRRELEVANT because COSMETIC WIGS WERE NOT MADE OF SARAN in the late 1960-1970s. I have pointed this out to henri hundreds of time. IF such a wig had existed, then they'd have FOUND ONE. NONE have ever been found.
 
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