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Jeffrey Epstein arrested for child sex trafficking

Faydra said:
This will be interesting. The cesspool of Twitter is beside itself about who Epstein will bring down with him.

I don't care what political side they are on, if they are involved in this they should go to jail.
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Thank you. I sure hope so. And not the "13 months with 6 days of weekly work release" type sentence.
 
carlitos said:
I'm going to avoid the pedantic discussion, but the Pizzagate people, like most satanic panic conspiracy theorists, believed that young children of both genders were being victimized. Not high school girls.
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Not to mention that there's no suggestions whatsoever of any sinister satanic conspiracy. At most you have a rich guy who basically got away with a slap on the wrist only because he could afford expensive well connected attorneys and had friends in high places, something that would hardly be unprecedented and something shocking.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Yah know... I'm not a pedophi... oh I'm sorry Bob... I'm not a "Sparkling Kiddy Diddler" so I, thankfully, have a hard time putting myself into the headspace of one but... why would you label your child porn? Doesn't that seem a bit... well stupid?

I know I know... massive ego, never thought he'd get caught, thought he was untouchable, etc and so forth but still.
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Well, he was caught, found guilty and effectively unpunished so yes I'm sure he felt untouchable.
 
According to what I heard today, the current charges are for events said to have happened in New York State, while the previous charge and plea deal applied only to crimes committed in Florida, so there's no double jeopardy. Part of the current indictment apparently involved a warranted search of his NY apartment, which turned up incriminating photographs.

I hope Trump is not stupid enough to pardon this one.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Yah know... I'm not a pedophi... oh I'm sorry Bob... I'm not a "Sparkling Kiddy Diddler" so I, thankfully, have a hard time putting myself into the headspace of one but... why would you label your child porn? Doesn't that seem a bit... well stupid?
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Yeah if only he labelled it as something innocent sounding the cops wouldn't bother to look through it, even though he bothered to hide it in a safe of all places.

That's not say that he couldn't have done a better job hiding any illegal material, but considering the specific criminal allegations I'm sure they would have looked through any data storage devices they could find.
 
JoeMorgue said:
And it looks like the answer to "What changed, why is he being arrested now" has to do with investigations into Alexander Acosta and a recent Florida ruling that the Department of Justice broke the law by not confirming with Epstein's victims about the deal he got back in 2006.

So maybe the plea deal did get thrown out.
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It appears though that Trump's DoJ is arguing in favor of the deal. I don't know who is appealing it.
 
bruto said:
According to what I heard today, the current charges are for events said to have happened in New York State, while the previous charge and plea deal applied only to crimes committed in Florida, so there's no double jeopardy. Part of the current indictment apparently involved a warranted search of his NY apartment, which turned up incriminating photographs.

I hope Trump is not stupid enough to pardon this one.
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If Trump loses the election, you can bet he'll pardon Epstein during his lame duck session.
 
If this numbnuts had photos of underage girls in his New York apartment last Saturday, I don't even know what to say. Like - dude, you got off scot-free for this, maybe don't keep a bunch of evidence at your place? Be grateful, turn over a new leaf, that sort of thing?
 
carlitos said:
If this numbnuts had photos of underage girls in his New York apartment last Saturday, I don't even know what to say. Like - dude, you got off scot-free for this, maybe don't keep a bunch of evidence at your place? Be grateful, turn over a new leaf, that sort of thing?
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Probably thought he was untouchable.
 
This morning: Democracy Now: Jeffrey Epstein, a Billionaire Friend of Presidents Trump & Clinton, Arrested for Sex Trafficking
There's an interesting interview with one of the girls that describes what went on.
VICKY WARD: If Alexander Acosta had let the FBI to continue with its investigation. But instead, there was this—that he had one meeting with Jay Lefkowitz, a member of Jeffrey Epstein’s powerhouse, massive sort of legal team, and he did the—you know, he later justified the plea deal that was cut, the nonprosecution agreement, that was significantly, by the way, not just helpful to Jeffrey Epstein, but helpful to four conspirators who had enabled him. He claimed later, “Well, you know, the women’s testimony might not have stood up. This was the best deal I could get.” But, in fact, we now know that he actually broke the law. You’re not allowed to cut a deal like that and not tell victims, who were cooperating with a separate FBI investigation, which is what happened. They were completely blindsided by this thing.

And finally, this year—and I have to say thank you to Julie Brown, the Miami Herald journalist, for highlighting the issue before Congress, and thank you to Ben Sasse, the Republican senator from Nebraska, for joining with 15 Democrats and going back to the Justice Department and saying, “What on Earth happened? This is a clear miscarriage of justice. Investigate it,” because I think it’s against that political climate of goodwill that you now have the FBI saying, “OK, let’s go back.”
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I see now it was Congress that has challenged Acosta's actions. So that's how Trump's DoJ prosecutors are fighting it.
 
BrooklynBaby said:
Pelosi's daughter says some of their "faves" could be implicated in the Epstein case, so you guys are cruising the wrong side of the aisle as usual.
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If Bill Clinton and Trump are both implicated watch for the contrast in reactions. Only one of them will be backed by uncompromising support no matter what we learn about them.
 
applecorped said:
already happening.......in this very thread
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Not yet. The information is just coming in now. A lot of Twitter is a pattern of:

Dem: Trump will be nervous
Rep: Bill Clinton sure had a lot of visits to Epstein’s place.
Dem: **** Clinton. **** all those pedo *****.

When the picture starts to solidify the Trump defence will begin in earnest and Clinton cut loose. (Assuming things are as actually as dodgy for this pair as already looks)
 
carlitos said:
If this numbnuts had photos of underage girls in his New York apartment last Saturday, I don't even know what to say. Like - dude, you got off scot-free for this, maybe don't keep a bunch of evidence at your place? Be grateful, turn over a new leaf, that sort of thing?
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The dude kept underage sex slaves and, allegedly, pimped them out to other rich and famous people. That kind of leaf is unlikely to be turned.
 
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