Jason Bermas Back-Pedelling.

[Crungy]

From the looks of it, the one everyone calls "Bermas" has been back pedelling from evolution for quite some time now.

 

[Arus808]

Oh I agree.

I certainly don't believe it was flight 77.

Okay guys, we have an admission here! he agrees that the plane that his 'witness' saw fly from the "north" was not Flight 77...

However I do not discount testimony of a second plane.

Okay gusy, another admission, he admits that the testimony of those seeing another plane in the area can't be discounted!

I simply discount the claim that it was "shadowing" what was believed to be flight 77 within a few seconds.

It wasn't shadowing. It was looking for the flight, as reported.

But I can promise you that the witnesses we talked to are talking about the plane that everyone believes hit the Pentagon.

YOU do realize that the CITGO station sits a little under the berm between it and Pentagon, and in order for anyoen to see clearly that the "north" path plane , they'd have to have been standing on top of the Citgo Station.

Were youre witnesses ontop of hte building? How does your witness see it (assumingly while he was at the pumps) a fast moving plane then make it to the top of the station to see ti impact the pentagon.

Or you're assuming (as that's what you've been doign, backed by no facts whatsoever) that the plane they saw was the plane that hit thepentagaon (flight 77)....

 

[realitybites]

Remember that Hollywood doesn't care about whether the story is true or not; it's whether it will sell tickets or help them somewhere else. It appears quite possible to me that Loose Change will be picked up by a studio as a "favor" to Charlie Sheen, and then maybe Sheen will make a guest spot or cameo on some other TV show or movie.

I have a feeling that Sheen may be the narrator for FC. Avery has stated over on their forums that he will not be doing the voice-over. Landing Sheen would give the film some Hollywood cred.

 

[Crungy]

I have a feeling that Sheen may be the narrator for FC. Avery has stated over on their forums that he will not be doing the voice-over. Landing Sheen would give the film some Hollywood cred.

And more importantly a Blackberry full of every silicone endowed hooker in So-Cal.

 

[JamesB]

I have a feeling that Sheen may be the narrator for FC. Avery has stated over on their forums that he will not be doing the voice-over. Landing Sheen would give the film some Hollywood cred.

And we all know Charlie Sheen has such gravitas.

 

[Abbyas]

You know, I've taken a bit of a 9/11 break, but in the words of Al Pacino in Godfather part III, "Everytime I try to (something or other), they pull me back in!" How can I stop when I'm so important to these people?

I'm a Jedi. My little brothers will be so very proud.

 

[Crungy]

You know, I've taken a bit of a 9/11 break, but in the words of Al Pacino in Godfather part III, "Everytime I try to (something or other), they pull me back in!" How can I stop when I'm so important to these people?

I'm a Jedi. My little brothers will be so very proud.

Quoting Godfather III?! WTF! To quote another Coppola flick, "The horror, the horror!"

 

[realitybites]

Okay, so I'm not going to read all these pages of Lyte blowing is clue prematurely, but is someone saving these admissions of witholding evidence for future use?

Even though I'm sure the evidence is sheeit, these pages could come in handy some way.

And just to get this thread back on topic, Bermas is a douche. Lyte, stop using this thread to out-douche your Messiah.

 

[The Almond]

There will be nothing for you to debunk in what we present.

My God, the ego in this statement astounds me. Where do you get off determining the relevence of evidence, the nature of truth or the iron-clad-water-tightness of your data before you present it? No self-respecting scientist or researcher does this. It's a breach of ethics.

 

[Abbyas]

And just to get this thread back on topic, Bermas is a douche.

May I just add that Dylan didn't realize he said this... on a video that Avery himself put together. HE EDITED IT HIMSELF AND DIDN'T WATCH IT?

 

[JamesB]

You know, I've taken a bit of a 9/11 break, but in the words of Al Pacino in Godfather part III, "Everytime I try to (something or other), they pull me back in!" How can I stop when I'm so important to these people?

I'm a Jedi. My little brothers will be so very proud.

Well I often say stupid things when I am around Abby, but I always thought it was the beer...

Thank you, thank you, I'll be in town until Thursday. Don't forget there is a two drink minimum.

 

[JamesB]

May I just add that Dylan didn't realize he said this... on a video that Avery himself put together. HE EDITED IT HIMSELF AND DIDN'T WATCH IT?

Well in all fairness to Dylan, it was pretty unwatchable...

I mean after you have seen 5 scenes of someone trying to buy subway tokens, what more is there really to contribute to the genre?

 

[pomeroo]

Stumbling on Truth

Lyte Trip may be a fantasist and a fraud, but not everything he writes is false. The following statement is completely correct:

"There will be nothing for you to debunk in what we present."

There will be nothing. That much is clear.

 

[Arus808]

Lyte Trip may be a fantasist and a fraud, but not everything he writes is false. The following statement is completely correct:

"There will be nothing for you to debunk in what we present."

There will be nothing. That much is clear.

haha can't debunk something if it doesn't exist.

 

[Gravy]

Remember the video of the fireman speaking on the steps of St. Mark's Church, who said there was no gag order? Guess who filmed that? Jason Bermas. He really needs to start watching his own stuff.

Correction: I don't know which LTW member was filming inside St. Mark's Church on 12/11/05, but Bermas is on camera interviewing FDNY lieutenant John Cerillo (sp?) afterwards.

I'm a fireman. There is no gag order on the job at all. But when I'm in uniform, when I'm on duty, that's a whole different issue. But right now you can ask me anything I want. I'll tell you anything I know.

 

[Gravy]

May I just add that Dylan didn't realize he said this... on a video that Avery himself put together. HE EDITED IT HIMSELF AND DIDN'T WATCH IT?

That method worked for Loose Change. Editing is for doers! Watching is for...watchers.

 

[steve s]

Originally Posted by 60hzxtl View Post
Do over! Do Over!!!

Mulligan!

A Dylligan?

 

[EvilBiker]

This will be demonstrated to EVERYONE'S 100% satisfaction.

Ugh - I just had a Joe Newman deja vu. Or was it Dennis Lee?

LT, could you repeat that for the voice analyser, please? You may be possessed by a couple of ghosts of Woosenseless Last.

 

[60hzxtl]

A Dylligan?

Dylligan, begin again!


Loose Change! How many versions do You own?

 

[stateofgrace]

Killtown,

I am certainly aware of people like yourself who believe that those of us who suffered on 9/11 must be part of some giant plot, either as dupes or plotters. I was in the Pentagon when the plane hit, I held parts of that aircraft in my hands, covered with fuel and oil, and I helped with the triage area. I helped a guy with a headwound, aided ambulances coming in, and suffer to this day with ongoing nightmares on a very regular basis. When one has seen what I saw, and had to do what I had to do, the images, the smells, the sounds, resonate in your mind forever.

I do not object to your desire to dispute the facts of that day. While I feel you are hopelessly naive and silly, that is your right. But please know that your page on the Pentagon crash is deeply offensive to the survivors such as myself. Again, it's not that you argue. But your tone is one of mocking, of making light of the greatest suffering I ever saw in my 25 years of military service. Your fake "quotes," your quips, all mock the pain of those of us that were there, and served that day. I am very likely one of the people in some of your photographs, and I assure you our thoughts were not about the grass (a silly claim you make, by the way), but were deeply, intensely worried about the people hurt, the people left inside. I will never forget that day, and while I can forgive your foolishness in not understanding the facts, the science, the reality of that day, I find it much harder to forgive your willingness to laugh at those who were so terribly hurt that day. Such an attitude shows you to be a cruel and heartless person, in addition to silly one.

LT Col Hal Bidlack
USAF Retired

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61874

I would like to requote this post. Although it is directed at Killtown, it is actually directed at the rest of the cter crowd who make up stories about the Pentagon.

This post is by nature one of the most simple but most powerful posts I have ever seen on any Internet forum. I have seen it a few times and it never fails to move me. It is from a man, Lt Col Hal Bidlack who was there. He endured something unimaginable, something so horrific it is actually difficult to grasp the enormity of it.

This one post simply destroys the cters; it puts it all into perspective. That being the Pentagon was not just a reinforced concrete building, it was a place of work, a place where real people, will real life and real families gathered and went about their business.

This one post is all I need; it is the truth, from somebody who was there. It brings absolute shame on anybody who says Flight 77 did not hit the Pentagon. It brings absolute shame on those that profit from this event.

Lt Col Hal Bidlack has something from me the cters will never have, respect, absolute and unreserved.