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January Stundie Nominations

Travis

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Travis
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It's a new year but I expect the same old good stuff.

A Stundie is a hilarious abomination of logic and fact pertaining to conspiracy theories. There are plenty of them and here is where you nominate them.

I put my trust in you all to do what is right.
 
And I bet if you pointed it out, she'd go on a long rant about what difference does it make. Morons.
 
Where does Gravitational Potential Energy Go?

I nominate Ergo for the Stundie, for this post:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6717268&postcount=104

Originally Posted by DaveThomasNMSR

Where did all that energy go? On 9/11? Or in other collapses?
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Yes, that's what I asked. Where does all that energy go in any burning steel-framed highrise where elements are starting to fail? In your own theory fire causes steel to weaken so easily that it can cause a sudden, rapid, global collapse. So, in highrise building fires such as the First Interstate Bank fire, the New York Plaza fire, the Beijing Mandarin, the Caracas Tower which burned for more than 17 hours, where did this all this energy go?

The Caracas tower was 56 storeys. About half the potential energy of the Twin Towers. Let's say 100 tons of TNT. Two floors failed early on in the collapse. Where did the potential 100 tons of TNT go?
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Basically, Ergo has been saying that there's no way gravity alone could have caused the damage at Ground Zero, but when I showed that each twin tower possessed the equivalent of 220 tons of TNT energy, and that this energy must have gone somewhere during the collapse (i.e. breaking columns, pulverizing concrete, heating materials, etc.), Ergo asked where this energy went in towers that did not collapse.

What he didn't realize, of course, was that the gravitational potential energy of a tower that hasn't collapsed still remains!

More Context.
 
I nominate tempesta29 for this argumentum ad jerryspringum:

tempesta29 said:
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If you think, after watching hypnotists on daytime television convince a man in an armchair he's driving a Ferrari, that the CIA can't do more or less the same, then there's not much more to discuss: you need to learn more about the subject.
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only "thinks about" travelling????????
my word, that guy is keen on performing cavity searches or he wasnt paying attention in his training when they said anyone who thinks about blowing up a plane should be cavity searched.
 
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I am a little curious about one thing: you had a hand on my shoulder -- to reassure me, you said. Then you put a hand on my other shoulder for even more reassurance. My question is, who was the Indiana father you were speaking of?
 
This is the sort of stuff I miss when I have people on ignore. :(

Regarding how WTC7 collapsed within its own footprint:

tempesta29 said:
The Post Office was severely damaged? I haven't seen any evidence of that. Looks damn near untouched to me.
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And when asked if he still thinks WTC7 went straight down:

tempesta29 said:
I've seen no hard evidence that it did otherwise. I've seen no videos of WTC 7 falling on other buildings, and I've seen several collapse videos. To me, that's a very uniform collapse, more so than many successful CDs in fact, and in the case of WTC 7, there was no direct financial incentive to reduce collateral damage.
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TjW said:
I am a little curious about one thing: you had a hand on my shoulder -- to reassure me, you said. Then you put a hand on my other shoulder for even more reassurance. My question is, who was the Indiana father you were speaking of?
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Can't tell you. :D
 
Here's a good start from our newest truther:


Chodorov said:
davefoc said:
You do realize that at the heart of this conspiracy theory is the idea that some super stealthy ninja style explosive/thermite experts snuck into the World Trade Center buildings undetected, mined the buildings, snuck out of the building completely undetected, set off their thermite/explosive charges in perfect synchronization with some airplanes that happened to be crashing into the buildings and left absolutely no evidence of themselves, their devices or the acquisition of their devices?

You think super stealthy ninja style explosive/thermite experts don't know how to use Photoshop? Get real. tempesta29 will so see through this kind of evidence.
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Thats exactly what did happen. And the list of organisations that could have pulled that off and gotten away with that is short. Which makes it easy to say something about who did it. Who else but a shadow government?
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