January 2008 Stundie Nominations

[rwguinn]

I'd like to nominate this, from realcddeal:



Thread: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3297646&postcount=170

It's an incredibly moronic statement, but unfortunately I think I'm the only one that gets why =[

..snork...
He/She/it said what?

 

[CptColumbo]

Naval engineer Heiwa sure knows his physics and structural engineering. The Twin Towers shouldn't have collapsed because,

...the top part should bounce back. Elementary. Giga powers! But it is like a feather falling on a straw. Physics.

I'm looking through an old physics text book I have, and the glossary does not include the term "Giga powers." Is this a new term or one so specialized that it wouldn't be included?

 

[Pardalis]

This is going to be a good year.

 

[AZCat]

I'm looking through an old physics text book I have, and the glossary does not include the term "Giga powers." Is this a new term or one so specialized that it wouldn't be included?

Check the date of publication. Only books published in 2002 or later have sections on "truther" physics (where you'll find definitions for terms like "Giga powers").

 

[CptColumbo]

Check the date of publication. Only books published in 2002 or later have sections on "truther" physics (where you'll find definitions for terms like "Giga powers").

It's from my high school days, so it's 1985. So, it doesn't even include the section about the SDI system that brought down the Challenger.

 

[CptColumbo]

[paraphrase]After asking einsteen why he thought the fire was the only contributing factor to the collapse of WTC7 and not include structural damage.[/paraphrase] He replied.

I have to verify the source but what I've heard is that Sunder called the fire ordinary office fires. The structural damage seems to have disabled the water supply, that is indeed relevant I guess. You have to believe Murphy's law.

Apparently the structural damages damage to the structure is irrelevant to the collapse of the structure.

 

[volatile]

I wanted people to see this gem of a post:

It's like his stance on Global Warming. It's not that he's wrong, or that the evidence doesn't support him, it's that there is in fact a vast conspiracy in operation to suppress the truth of the matter, which he "knew" was right all along.

Indeed.

And just so.

Can you prove there ISN'T a vast conspiracy, on either count?

No?

But maybe you are right, maybe I am simply an irrational, far rightwing loon.

In either case if you, as a professional researcher of any sort write that there are differences between men and women or write that climate change is not being caused by humans, you will never see another dime in funding and will likely be driven out of academia.

This is a given.

So, what would it look like if there really WERE a Vast Conspiracy?


Tokie

 

[Pardalis]

MM's "screw up/re-planned collapse" theory

Anything goes to deny reality.

You raise a good point here stateofgrace and I'm not reluctant to admit it.

I'm not going to look up my post for my exact wording but the essence of what I said was they planned for WTC7 to be within the collapsing WTC 1 debris fall.

I believe that WTC7 was indeed a controlled demolition but I can only speculate about why they did it and as you alude to, why didn't they do it differently.

The best answer I've heard proposed, is that it was a major screwup.

The scenario has it that the collapse of WTC7 was planned to occur under the debris cloud from the falling WTC1 and be blamed on the WTC1 collapse.

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5905/gjswtc34rto9.jpg

Hidden by that massive debris cloud, a CD of WTC7 would be well masked while guaranteeing the total destruction of WTC7 and it's contents..unlike a topple which would produce far less predictable results.

Something went wrong and they failed to trigger the demolition in time with the WTC1 collapse.

That obviously presented two problems.

They had to finish the job (CD WTC7) and they had to have some kind of explanation to account for it's collapse.

Once they corrected the problem with the CD, they allowed time for the debris damage and fires to build a case for the re-planned collapse.

MM

 

[Mobyseven]

Can we please keep the length of nominations down? While I'll consider long noms, they are at a considerable disadvantage - the longer the nom, the more bizarre or funny the content should be. Noms that are long but only have one or two really good lines in them will probably not make it through.

 

[cyclonic]

Discussing bush's response after being told a 2nd plane had hit the south tower; sunwestmovies made this comment:
sunwestmovies (3 days ago)
" No, it proves he is in on it. The Goat story (upside down) is an Illuminati symbol. He saw the 1st plane (just as he said he did) and then sat their with a book about the Masonic god G.A.O.T.U the goat god, and played it out til the end, just as his masters told him too"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cddIgb1nGJ8

 

[Undesired Walrus]

That was a pretty decent debate. Not quite long enough though.

An issue often ignored in debates is UFO's, which I think needs to be debated a little more.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KdqVrabAhxc

ha.

 

[OldTigerCub]

Horny for the twoof?

A twoofer at the LC Forum has a rather interesting, albeit somewhat disgusting, analogy in this post for his take on Alex Jones and the woo he spews:

When Alex over exatrates (How the hell do you spell that word?) on his shows about upcoming doom. For the most part what I've noticed, his doom predictions arn't based on something tangible. No good fact presents themselves. Some call it fear mongering, I call it preejaculation while your sleeping. You get all antsy at something that isn't real yet, just seems to be.

Perhaps one more example of why a girlfriend might be the best cure for twooferism? If and when he gets one, hopefully she will help him with his spelling.

 

[The Big Dog]

OldTiger:

"over exatrates." Oh my stars.

And people say we over-exaggerate just how dumb the Troofers can be.

 

[DarkMagician]

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18999.htm

Mark H. Gaffney tries to point out his "critique" of NIST again. However, he gets the acronym completely wrong

01/04/08 "ICH " -- - -In August 2002 the US Congress authorized the National Institute for Safety and Transportation (NIST) to investigate the collapse of the World Trade Center on 9/11. The official instruction was not limited to conducting a building performance study, as some have claimed.[1] The primary stated objective of the investigation was to determine the cause of the collapse–––no less.[2]

Really, if you're trying to show where a mess of scientists have got it wrong, don't flub up a simple acronym! It makes us side with "them smart guys" you're trying to argue against.

 

[Belz...]

Naval engineer Heiwa sure knows his physics and structural engineering. The Twin Towers shouldn't have collapsed because,

Bounce... back ?

 

[1337m4n]

I would like to nominate A-Train, for his assertion that...well, just see for yourself:

The efforts toward the truth of 9/11 are making progress. Just a few short years ago, the no-plane theories were being seriously entertained. Those have been thrown out, and even Pentagon no-planers are on the run. The truth is being winnowed out, however slowly.

Link: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3306329&postcount=30

In other words, the Truth Movement's standard of "progress" is replacing one dumb theory with another, slightly less dumb theory.

The revolution is nigh!

 

[uk_dave]

The truth is, the 'truth' movement will truly know the truth when they give up on the 'truth'.

 

[Horatius]

I would like to nominate A-Train, for his assertion that...well, just see for yourself:



Link: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3306329&postcount=30

In other words, the Truth Movement's standard of "progress" is replacing one dumb theory with another, slightly less dumb theory.

The revolution is nigh!

There's another one in there:

The magic number is infinite. There will always be lies to be defeated. The fight for truth is eternal....

But, as a reference, recall that it took thirty some odd years after JFK's assassination before Michael Collins Piper's book Final Judgment blew the lid off the mystery and exposed the plot as an Israeli/Zionist operation.

JFK did what now? How did we miss this?

 

[realitybites]

I was wondering how Lisabob has thus far been snubbed in the nominations, but then I saw that there really are just too many posts of hers to wade through and decide on just one.

 

[Drudgewire]

I was wondering how Lisabob has thus far been snubbed in the nominations, but then I saw that there really are just too many posts of hers to wade through and decide on just one.

I thought about just nominating the thread but it seemed to run counter to the spirit of these things.