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James Webb Telescope

The Experimental Advanced Superconducting Tokamak in China sustained a reaction for over 17 minutes in December 2021. That doesn't sound like much, but in the grand scheme of things it's incredible. And while 5-10 years may be a little bit optimistic, it's closer than you think and getting closer all the time.
 
Perhaps, like myself, you're not completely comfortable with everything what we believe we know. ;)

A little bit. Physicists are convinced that dark matter and dark energy exist despite the fact both are difficult to test for. They are hypothesized because the math doesn’t work without them. Now, it wouldn't be the first time hypotheses were made based on the math and proven years later. It has happened multiple times in the past.

Still, I can't help wondering if both are not unlike the God of the Gaps. We don't know so we'll plug something in that makes the math work. Newton did this to explain orbits he couldn't quite understand. It took LaPlace to correct his mistake.
 
The Experimental Advanced Superconducting Tokamak in China sustained a reaction for over 17 minutes in December 2021. That doesn't sound like much, but in the grand scheme of things it's incredible. And while 5-10 years may be a little bit optimistic, it's closer than you think and getting closer all the time.

That's interesting. I wonder how I missed that? Still, it takes a decade and monstrous amounts of money to get a fission reactor up and running and the science behind it is well known and understood.

I'm not arguing that the science behind fusion shouldn't be done. It should. But I still think we're 40 to 50 years away at least.
 
A little bit. Physicists are convinced that dark matter and dark energy exist despite the fact both are difficult to test for. They are hypothesized because the math doesn’t work without them. Now, it wouldn't be the first time hypotheses were made based on the math and proven years later. It has happened multiple times in the past.

Still, I can't help wondering if both are not unlike the God of the Gaps. We don't know so we'll plug something in that makes the math work. Newton did this to explain orbits he couldn't quite understand. It took LaPlace to correct his mistake.
Theoretical physics of the gaps perhaps? :D
 
The Experimental Advanced Superconducting Tokamak in China sustained a reaction for over 17 minutes in December 2021. That doesn't sound like much, but in the grand scheme of things it's incredible. And while 5-10 years may be a little bit optimistic, it's closer than you think and getting closer all the time.

Uh, what reaction?

ETA: https://www.neimagazine.com/news/newsanother-world-record-for-chinas-east-fusion-reactor-8781515

However, Lin cautioned that as the technology is still in the experimental stage and still needs at least 30 years to mature.
 
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Theoretical physics of the gaps perhaps? :D

;) Something like that.

But these people are the smartest individuals on the planet. The math alone baffles me to no end. At least they have lucid rational explanations and the math behind them. Not to mention they are constantly putting their ideas to the test.

Try and get that out of a theist.
 
On one hand I've read that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light yet I've also read that galaxies are traveling away from us faster than light.

No two material objects in our four dimensional spacetime can be moving apart from each other faster than the speed of light; that's the four dimensional equivalent of saying that no two people on the surface of the earth can be standing more than [insert whatever half the circumference of the earth is] km apart. But space is not a material object, it can expand faster than that, and distances between the galaxies which are embedded in it increase at the speed of the expansion.

A lot of this stuff goes over my head too, but like you I enjoy trying to wrap my brain round as much of it as I can.
 
No two material objects in our four dimensional spacetime can be moving apart from each other faster than the speed of light; that's the four dimensional equivalent of saying that no two people on the surface of the earth can be standing more than [insert whatever half the circumference of the earth is] km apart. But space is not a material object, it can expand faster than that, and distances between the galaxies which are embedded in it increase at the speed of the expansion.

A lot of this stuff goes over my head too, but like you I enjoy trying to wrap my brain round as much of it as I can.

I think the problem is they are suggesting that these galaxies are not traveling through space, but space is expanding moving them farther apart.

Whoosh! Right over my head.
 
There is a new post up on the mission blog. Apparently the cryocooler is approaching a "pinch point" at 15 kelvin where its ability to remove heat is at its lowest.

https://blogs.nasa.gov/webb/2022/04/06/webbs-mid-infrared-instrument-cooldown-continues/

“Over the last couple weeks, the cryocooler has been circulating cold helium gas past the MIRI optical bench, which will help cool it to about 15 kelvins. Soon, the cryocooler is about to experience the most challenging days of its mission. By operating cryogenic valves, the cryocooler will redirect the circulating helium gas and force it through a flow restriction. As the gas expands when exiting the restriction, it becomes colder, and can then bring the MIRI detectors to their cool operating temperature of below 7 kelvins. But first, the cryocooler must make it through the ‘pinch point’ – the transition through a range of temperatures near 15 kelvins, when the cryocooler’s ability to remove heat is at its lowest. Several time-critical valve and compressor operations will be performed in rapid succession, adjusted as indicated by MIRI cryocooler temperature and flow rate measurements. What is particularly challenging is that after the flow redirection, the cooling ability gets better as the temperature gets lower. On the flip side, if the cooling is not immediately achieved due to, for example, larger than modeled heat loads, MIRI will start warming.

“Once the cryocooler overcomes the remaining heat loads, it will settle into its lower-power steady science operation state for the rest of the mission. This pinch point event has been extensively practiced in the cryocooler testbed at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL), which manages the MIRI cryocooler, as well as during Webb testing at the agency’s Goddard Space Flight Center and Johnson Space Center.

And by the way, the latest temperature reading shows 17K, so it is nearly at this "pinch point" already.

https://jwst.nasa.gov/content/webbLaunch/whereIsWebb.html?units=metric
 
Yes, my point was that man made fusion is essentially not real.

Man made fusion for power production is not real today. But if you're willing pay for the energy cost, fusion reactions are commonplace in particle accelerators and have been for decades.

In terms of the ability to perform, study, and understand the reactions, that is most certainly real.

Heck, if you have more money and time than common sense, you can do fusion at home: https://makezine.com/projects/nuclear-fusor/.
 
I'm wondering if the JWST and its capabilities will confirm or change what we believe we know.

Probably both.

JWST is unlikely to change the basic story of the big bang. But there are a lot of important details about things like early galaxy and star formation that we don't know much about, and JWST is likely to make a big difference there. Some of that might be change to what we thought we knew (for example, stars and galaxies might have started forming earlier than we thought), but a lot of that might be filling in what we didn't know.
 
Man made fusion for power production is not real today. But if you're willing pay for the energy cost, fusion reactions are commonplace in particle accelerators and have been for decades.

In terms of the ability to perform, study, and understand the reactions, that is most certainly real.

Heck, if you have more money and time than common sense, you can do fusion at home: https://makezine.com/projects/nuclear-fusor/.

Watch this video if you want to understand why even with the so called fusion breakthroughs, fusion energy production in our lifetime is not realistic.

https://youtu.be/5PLP807Ja00
 

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