jjramsey
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Dr Adequate said:I can't --- it's in pdf format, and my computer doesn't know what to do with it.
You can't download and install Acrobat Reader?
Dr Adequate said:I can't --- it's in pdf format, and my computer doesn't know what to do with it.
Well, your post nailed it. I am indeed running Windows 98 on my home computer.jjramsey said:You can't download and install Acrobat Reader?
Thus James son of Joseph brother of "Josh". Do you really think they would have made that mistake on an Ossuary of an important man?
When the police raided Golan's living quarters, they found a room therein containing various fake antiquities in various "stages" of production. They found the Ossuary in the bathroom, sitting on the toilet - seriously. Oded Golan is not merely an alleged antiquities forger.
It's telling that he didn't come up with the "well my mother (whom I allow to handle all of these ancient artifacts regularly) cleaned the thing with various chemicals lots of times" argument until confronted with the fact that the patina over the inscription was missing.
I might remind everyone here that the Biblical Archaeology Review accepted and hurrah'd the authenticity of the Ossuary before any tests or studies whatsoever had been performed.
I will further remind you that Hershel Shanks, the editor of the BAR, personally condemned the forgery study as soon as it was released without having access to or composing a scientific rebuttal.
At that press conference, which took place on October 22, 2002, Hershel Shanks is quoted as calling the Ossuary "the first ever archaeological discovery to corroborate biblical references to Jesus".
Hershel Shanks is also quoted on his own website, dismissing the conclusion of the IAA
It may indeed be a forgery and, if so, let's hope the forger will be caught and put in jail.
Normally, anything that André Lemaire writes for us would be enough to justify its publication in BAR. Because this was such an extraordinary inscription, however, we showed it to a number of other prominent paleographers. Harvard's Frank Cross, perhaps the world's most distinguished Semitic paleographer, said, "If this is a forgery, the forger was a genius." (Along the same line, leading Jerusalem archaeologist and paleographer Gaby Barkay is quoted in a recent news report as saying, "If its a fake, it's a fantastically executed piece.")
The inscription was also examined by P. Kyle McCarter, Albright Professor at the Johns Hopkins University (and author of Ancient Inscriptions), and by Israeli paleographer Ada Yardeni, author of The Book of Hebrew Script. They, too, saw no reason whatever to question the authenticity of the inscription.
We had it examined by one of the world's leading Aramaic experts, Father Joseph Fitzmyer of Catholic University of America. After some initial hesitation, he deemed the somewhat peculiar Aramaic phrasing on the inscription to be appropriate to the first century A.D.
The recent conclusion of the Israel Antiquities Authority (IAA) is essentially the view of one person, Professor Yuval Goren of Tel Aviv University. The decision of the IAA purports to be by unanimous agreement of a 15-person committee, each of whom had been named by the IAA. It appears, however, that the only one on the committee with any geological and chemical knowledge on which the conclusion is based is Yuval Goren....
There are other reasons why the conclusion of the IAA should at least be further explored before accepting it without discussion. For example, when the announcement was made the final report of the committee was not ready for distribution. Why was the announcement not made when the final report was ready to be released? .... It's also significant that the team from the Israel Geological Survey has been gagged. They are not permitted to discuss the case. Why?
All this is not to say that the IAA's conclusion is incorrect. What it says is that we must be patient and see what evaluations can be made of the IAA report when it comes out.
stamenflicker said:Joshua,
Contrast that with Shanks, who had the box looked at by numerous scholars, including those capable of dating it, as well as critics of ancient script.
I should say: no it isn't.stamenflicker said:Nevertheless, we have a scientific question raised about the ethics of the research in the link I provided, one which includes misrepresenting an article by renaming it in such a way that it appeared to be against the authenticity of the Ossuary:
Original title of the article: "New Tests Bolster the Case for Authenticity"
Quoted title in the released document of the forgery testers: "New Tests Bluster the Case for Authenticity"
The idea that un-biased researches would make an error like this by happenstance is far fetched.
Printer's Error
by P.G. Wodehouse
As o'er my latest book I pored,
Enjoying it immensely,
I suddenly exclaimed 'Good Lord!'
And gripped the volume tensely.
Golly!' I cried. I writhed in pain.
'They've done it on me once again!'
And furrows creased my brow.
I'd written (which I thought quite good)
'Ruth, ripening into womanhood,
Was now a girl who knocked men flat
And frequently got whistled at',
And some vile, careless, casual gook
Had spoiled the best thing in the book
By printing 'not'
(Yes,'not', great Scott!)
When I had written 'now'.
On murder in the first degree
The Law, I knew, is rigid:
Its attitude, if A kills B,
To A is always frigid.
It counts it not a trivial slip
If on behalf of authorship
You liquidate compositors.
This kind of conduct it abhors
And seldom will allow.
Nevertheless, I deemed it best
And in the public interest
To buy a gun, to oil it well,
Inserting what is called a shell,
And go and pot
With sudden shot
This printer who had printed 'not'
When I had written 'now'.
I tracked the bounder to his den
Through private information:
I said, 'Good afternoon', and then
Explained the situation:
'I'm not a fussy man,' I said.
'I smile when you put "rid" for "red"
And "bad" for "bed" and "hoad" for "head"
And "bolge" instead of "bough".
When "wone" appears in lieu of "wine"
Or if you alter "Cohn" to "Schine",
I never make a row.
I know how easy errors are.
But this time you have gone too far
By printing "not" when you knew what
I really wrote was "now".
Prepare,' I said, 'to meet your God
Or, as you'd say, your Goo or Bod,
Or possibly your Gow.'
A few weeks later into court
I came to stand my trial.
The Judge was quite a decent sort.
He said, 'Well, cocky, I'll
Be passing sentence in a jiff,
And so, my poor unhappy stiff,
If you have anything to say,
Now is the moment. Fire away.
You have?'
I said, 'And how!
Me lud, the facts I don't dispute.
I did, I own it freely, shoot
This printer through the collar stud.
What else could I have done, me lud?
He'd printed "not"...'
The judge said, 'What!
When you had written "now"?
God bless my soul! Gadzooks!' said he.
'The blighters did that once to me.
A dirty trick, I trow.
I hereby quash and override
The jury's verdict. Gosh!' he cried.
'Give me your hand. Yes, I insist,
You splendid fellow! Case dismissed.'
(Cheers, and a Voice 'Wow-wow!')
A statue stands against the sky,
Lifelike and rather pretty.
'Twas recently erected by
The P.E.N. committee.
And many a passer-by is stirred,
For on the plinth, if that's the word,
In golden letters you may read
'This is the man who did the deed.
His hand set to the plough,
He did not sheathe the sword, but got
A gun at great expense and shot
The human blot who'd printed "not"
When he had written "now".
He acted with no thought of self,
Not for advancement, not for pelf,
But just because it made him hot
To think the man had printed "not"
When he had written "now".'
I think you have summed it up nicely...The problem with religious 'faith' ideas is they cannot be falsified and ultimately, all things are possible.
The idea that the spelling mistake was a subtle cunning move to try to discredit the ossuary borders on paranoia. It was a mistake.