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Its different when its your side piece

TragicMonkey said:
Abortion is a complex and difficult moral topic, so for guidance I turn to one of the more thoughtful modern philosophers when she sang:



--Sextina Aquafina, "Get Dat Fetus, Kill Dat Fetus (Brrap Brrap Pew Pew)"
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I prefer "Every Sperm Is Sacred" myself...
 
dudalb said:
You get used to hypocrisy in politics,but Murphy takes it about as far as you can go.
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It's worked so far.

Even Mr. Pecksniff would find it outrageous.
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One imaginary vote doesn't count for much. What matters is how many real voters are outraged by Murphy's behaviour (according to one interpretation of the messages) and how many are outraged by the media's faked interpretation.
 
CapelDodger said:
It's worked so far.


One imaginary vote doesn't count for much. What matters is how many real voters are outraged by Murphy's behaviour (according to one interpretation of the messages) and how many are outraged by the media's faked interpretation.
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Murphy has announced he is not running for reelection, so we will never know.....
 
BobTheCoward said:
Why would you apply it pollution but not murder?
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Well, for starters I don't call it murder.

Similar to the tax situation in Zig's post, as only one person paying more tax than everyone else isn't going to do much for the tax coffers, so only one company polluting less than everyone else isn't going to do much for the watershed. You need everyone to agree to make and follow the rule for the rule to do what you want it to do. The river is still polluted if you stop and the other three guys don't. The bridge is still not funded if you pay 40% and the other million people don't.

Abortions happen in discrete units. The bun continues to bake if you don't get an abortion, no matter what anyone else does with their buns.

Reading your post again it sounds more like you'd mean, for example, a gambling addict who gambles but wants gambling outlawed because he'd like to stop but as long as it's available he will not stop. On that one I can't really square it with abortion, for instance the gambler probably isn't calling other gamblers immoral. And for those who do view it as murder it seems so completely strange to me that they'd go around essentially handwaving it half the time.
 
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bruto said:
I wish I believed that that is true, because it can be easier to fight hypocrisy than zeal. Alas, I suspect a significant portion of the pro life community is earnest, at least until circumstances hit them head on.
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Plenty of pro life people have proven the sincerity of their beliefs under trying circumstances. This need to believe it's ALL a sham is peculiar and counter-factual If you think the position is wrong, then you shouldn't need to claim it's hypocritical.
 
This goes beyond hypocrisy. As a member of Congress, Murphy was actively participating in the chipping away of abortion rights.

It's one thing to engage in an activity you claim is immoral. It's another thing entirely to engage in an activity while trying to take away other people's rights to do the same.
 
johnny karate said:
This goes beyond hypocrisy. As a member of Congress, Murphy was actively participating in the chipping away of abortion rights.

It's one thing to engage in an activity you claim is immoral. It's another thing entirely to engage in an activity while trying to take away other people's rights to do the same.
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He would also be taking away his right to do it.
 
It's the Trump era. Why didn't he just pivot his re-election campaign to the purely misogynistic position of believing women shouldn't have agency over their own bodies? That would solve his hypocrisy problem while being more honest.
 
Murphy and Harvey Weinstein have one thing in common:Both are hypocrites of the first water.
 
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