It's CTists, not CTers.

[MortFurd]

CTer works just fine:

[On second thought, I'd better not post that. Profanity is frowned on here.]

 

[brodski]

sounds more like a religion than a "truth" movement

Aren't most, if not all, religions "truth" movements?

 

[Johnny Pixels]

More like a bank gets robbed and the FBI say armed bandits with no assosiation with the bank or employees did it, but we think some of the bank employees were in on it. We don't deny the bank was robbed.

So your "9/11 denier" slogan is pure stupidity on your guy's part.

No more or less stupid than the 9/11 denial movement calling all critics shills and disinformation agents of the government. Or forum bots for that matter...

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

Originally Posted by defaultdotxbe View Post
skeptics should be open to all possibilities, i have yet to meet a CTers who even considers the notion that they might be wrong

Funny, I feel the same way about OCTs.

Let's see then, shall we?

What evidence could be presented to you that would cause you to change your position on the events of 9/11?

As an act of good faith I will answer the question myself. If the consensus of the engineering community shifted to state that the towers should not have collapsed, and their conclusions are corroborated by objective evidence; if Watergate-esque tapes came out, showing that officials knew of, or plotted, the events; if objective evidence was presented showing the use of explosives to aid the collapse of the towers; these are some examples of things that would cause me to rethink my position on the events.

How about you Killtown?

 

[tkingdoll]

CTers is linguistically correct.

Only if you go with 'theorisers'.

 

[chipmunk stew]

Rikzilla coined the term "CTards", which I rather like, but it's not very diplomatic...

How about 9/11 Revisionist? Not exactly the same ring, but hard to argue with.

 

[CurtC]

I deny the official version of events. Call me an "official version of events denier" if you must. That would be accurate.

So, since you will readily admit that September 2001 actually had an eleventh, you're not a 9/11 denier? Sorry, I think the term is still apt.

 

[senorpogo]

The Oxford English Dictionary, under the verb "theorize", contains "theorizer, one who theorizes." So CTers could be short for "conspiracy theorizer" and it would be perfectly bona fide english.

Frankly, I just see CTers as convenient short hand that does not need to be defended any more than any other internet chat room acroynm. It saves you time while you type and everyone knows what you're talking about. Where's the harm?

 

[tkingdoll]

The Oxford English Dictionary, under the verb "theorize", contains "theorizer, one who theorizes." So CTers could be short for "conspiracy theorizer" and it would be perfectly bona fide english.

Frankly, I just see CTers as convenient short hand that does not need to be defended any more than any other internet chat room acroynm. It saves you time while you type and everyone knows what you're talking about. Where's the harm?

We already covered that, and I demonstrated that 'theorizer' is not the commonly accepted word, theorist is.

There is no harm, no-one will die. However, I suspect that many people don't think about what they're actually saying when they type CTer, and it's worth bringing to their attention that CTist makes more sense. If you weren't typing it, but saying it longhand, out loud, would you really say conspiracy theorizers?

 

[senorpogo]

We already covered that, and I demonstrated that 'theorizer' is not the commonly accepted word, theorist is.

There is no harm, no-one will die. However, I suspect that many people don't think about what they're actually saying when they type CTer, and it's worth bringing to their attention that CTist makes more sense. If you weren't typing it, but saying it longhand, out loud, would you really say conspiracy theorizers?

But I'm not saying it, I'm typing it. I wouldn't say LOL either, but do so many times when I'm typing.

While I agree that many/most people neither realize nor think about what they're actually typing, I don't really think one can say that CTist makes more sense than CTer. I think they make equal sense because, in the end, people understand what's being conveyed.

 

[tkingdoll]

But I'm not saying it, I'm typing it. I wouldn't say LOL either, but do so many times when I'm typing.

While I agree that many/most people neither realize nor think about what they're actually typing, I don't really think one can say that CTist makes more sense than CTer. I think they make equal sense because, in the end, people understand what's being conveyed.

Well I say it out loud, often, for example when I'm meeting other skeptics or discussing skeptic issues with the media or whoever.

CTist makes more sense if the person typing it wants to say conspiracy theorist. If they want to say conspiracy theoriser/zer, then groovy. But I find that unlikely, as theorizer just isn't in common usage.

I thought it was well worth pointing out because some people might say "oh yeah, I never thought of it before but I agree". And some people have, so all is well.

 

[NoZed Avenger]

You people do realize that you've now spent more time thinking about the name than all of the CT advocates have spent actually thinking about their theories?

 

[tkingdoll]

You people do realize that you've now spent more time thinking about the name than all of the CT advocates have spent actually thinking about their theories?

They will say that's because we can't debunk their theories so we're scraping the barrel

 

[senorpogo]

You people do realize that you've now spent more time thinking about the name than all of the CT advocates have spent actually thinking about their theories?

Those CTerizerists are some crazy cats.

 

[Beleth]

So your "9/11 denier" slogan is pure stupidity on your guy's part.

There are people who deny the official story of the events of the Holocaust. They typically don't deny that Auschwitz et al existed; they deny that what the historians say happened, happened.

The phrase used to describe such people is "Holocaust deniers".

There are people who deny the official story of the events of 9/11 ...

 

[Cleon]

How about "schmucks?" It's even a good Yiddish word.

 

[Dr Richard]

/derail to usage of abbreviations in general

Can we also agree forum opposition to "HIV virus?"

Every time I hear it on the news...

/end derail

 

[defaultdotxbe]

/derail to usage of abbreviations in general

Can we also agree forum opposition to "HIV virus?"

Every time I hear it on the news...

/end derail

and PIN numbers (and VIN numbers for you car buffs)

 

[Johnny Pixels]

and PIN numbers (and VIN numbers for you car buffs)

Mine pet annoyance in this field was always the Nintendo NES

 

[tkingdoll]

and PIN numbers

Which you input into an ATM machine