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It's Baaaaack - The Bible Code III

Weak Kitten said:
Are there any actual rules to this whole "Bible Code" thing? It looks like you can take any angle, any number of spaces apart, as long as they are in a straight line. With rules like that it seems to me that it would be nearly impossible to NOT find something in a large enough text block.
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The rules are made after you find something "significant." This means you can work forwards, backwards, diagonally, and in any direction until you find something you think is useful. So far, a straight line is assumed, but why not use some other geometrical figure, as long as you make the rules!

It's a lot like shooting a rifle bullet at the side of the barn, then drawing a target around the hit and crowing about how great a sharpshooter you are.

If you want to "prove" how prophetic your book is, it is better to chose a "holy" book than a popular novel for your source. No one would be impressed if you found something in a NY Times Bestseller list work or a Batman comic. Use an ancient text and it looks like the ancients were not only smarter than us, but sneakier, too.
 
I think I may have cracked it...

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ALO8ADOFBO6LLOCZKSALOADQOFBOLLOdCKSAL5ITSALLA GREAT BIG PILEOF OADOFBOLLLOCKSALOADOFBOLLOCKSTEAMINGDROPPINGSXXUY£67^%JJJJJJ
ALOAMONEYDOFBOLLOCKSALOADOFBOLLOCKSALOADOFBOLLOCKSALOADOFBOLLOCKS
ALOHOOEYADOFBOLLOCKSALNONSENSEOADOFBCRUDOLLOCKSALOADOFBOLLOCKSALOADOFBOLLOCKS
ALOADOFBOCOMPLETELLOCKSALOADOFBOLLOCKSALRUBBISHOADOFBOLLOCKSALOADOFBOLLOCKS
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Bump for MINISTERofTRUTH, aka Kevin Sean Proudler...
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Let's see ... the veiled references to "Outer Secrets", your claims that "The True Bible Codes are a different kettle of fish" ... I suspect you are none other than Kevin Sean Proudler, who boasts "I, K. SEAN PROUDLER , will reward the person who can prove that the following list of Bible decodings are simply coincidental, with the reward of, $100,000 cdn."

Is that right?
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MINISTERofTRUTH said:
Originally Posted by steve s
What is it about being a whacko that makes them create mile-long web pages? Do they not know how to create and link to other pages?

Steve S
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Beats me. Even my web page is shorter that that.
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Oh really? Let's compare and contrast the two whacko web pages under consideration.

Whacko Page #1:
The True Bible Code
Number of lines of HTML: 7205
HTML Source Size: 452 kb
Size with graphics: 984 kb

Whacko Page #2: for MinisterofTruth, aka Kevin Sean Proudler:
The Mark of God, Jesus, and Christ, plus the Mark of the Beast.
Number of lines of HTML: 20177
HTML Source Size: 920 kb
Size with graphics: 1990 kb

Given these statistics, Sean Kevin Proudler, aka MinisterofTruth, your statement "Even my web page is shorter that that." has been falsified.
 
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TimCallahan said:
I wonder, assuming I could set up the matrix right, if I could find in the Bible Code the words: "Drosnin is blowing smoke up my ***." I'll settle for equidistant spacing of "Drosnin . . . blow . . . smoke . . . up . . . ***."
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I don't know. Does the Bible use asterisks? :p
 
Where's my Moolah, Kevin?

Since Kevin Sean Proudler (MinisterofTruth) has declined to answer my questions, I'd like to just go ahead and establish why I think he owes me $100,000 Canadian.

Proudler's website's Bible Codes page introduces a "new" kind of Bible Code, in which great significance is given to Gematriacal values for English letters (Proudler searches the King James version of the Bible a lot).

For example, he assigns "G" a "Code 6" value of 42, as G is the 7th letter, and 7x6 = 42. Likewise, "O" (15th letter) has a Code 6 value of 90, and "D" (4th letter) a value of 24. Thus, "GOD" has a value of 42 + 90 + 24 = 156.

Proudler's game is this: he takes any term of interest (GOD, CHRIST, PROUDLER, etc.), and calculates its Code 6 value. Then, he uses those values to limit the steps for a traditional Bible Code search. He searches for various other terms between such given limits, and gets new numbers for the number of matches for these terms. Adding these new numbers together yields a new number, and if this number matches the Code 6 value for any other word of interest, Proudler claims it a "compelling match."

Here is one example, regarding the truther organization AE911Truth:
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Here, KSP limits the step sizes to those between 1 and 156 (GOD), and then finds the corresponding numbers of matches for three terms (AENINE gave 357 hits, ELEVEN got 63 hits, and TRUTH got 1042 hits.) Summing these, 357+63+1042 = 1462, which contains (462), which is the Code 6 value for CHRIST.

KSP interprets this as meaning that "AE 911 TRUTH IS SUPPORTED BY THE TWO STILL STANDING TOWERS KNOWN AS GOD AND CHRIST !"

On this same page, Proudler announces that
I, K. SEAN PROUDLER , will reward the person who can prove that the following list of Bible decodings are simply coincidental, with the reward of, $100,000 cdn.
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Here's why I think I've earned that cash reward.

I have adapted my Bible Code application to do Proudler-style searches. Here's what I found code-wise using a couple books of Tolstoy's War and Peace as the search text (not the Bible, natch).

Sample result #1 (of thousands):

#matches(IDIOT) with skips from 378 [WACKY] to 654 [PROUDLER] =162 ['CODE']

Translation: "Searching in War and Peace, and restricting skip intervals to those lying between 378 and 654 (which happen to be the Gematriacal values of 'WACKY' and 'PROUDLER'), I found 162 matches of the word 'IDIOT'; the number 162 also happens to be the Gematrical value of 'CODE'."

In other words, "THE WACKY IDIOT CODE CAME FROM PROUDLER."

Here's another:
#matches(IDIOT) with skips from 911 to 2001 =654 [PROUDLER]

Translation: "Searching in War and Peace, and restricting skip intervals to those lying between 911 and 2001 (references to September 11th, 2001), I found 654 matches of the word 'IDIOT'; the number 654 also happens to be the Gematrical value of 'PROUDLER'."

In other words, "THE IDIOT 9/11 CODE CAME FROM PROUDLER."

I can crunch these out by the thousands.

What do you think, JREFers? Does Proudler owe me the $$$?

MinisterofTruth aka KSP, if this isn't good enough for you, I will be happy to come up with new results, in any text of your choosing. That way, you can verify each result as a valid "code." Feel free to suggest an impartial referee to validate the results.

Now, if KSP declines to comment, does anyone know what the correct branch of the Canadian Government is for addressing cases of Internet Fraud?
 
Bump, MinisterOfTruth

Bump for MINISTERofTRUTH, aka Kevin Sean Proudler...
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You know, Kevin Sean Proudler (aka Minister of Truth) has actually e-mailed me a couple of times in the past, trying to interest me in his "True Bible Code" site.

That's why I've done a lot of work producing "Proudler" codes in mundane texts like War and Peace.

In this thread, he's again announced his website, but has disappeared since I pointed out how erroneous his statement about the length of his website was in comparison to another wacky Bible Code page.

Also, he has vanished since I pointed out that I should be rewarded the $100,000 Proudler has promised to anyone who can show that his Bible decodings are simply coincidental, which I have done.

I repeat, MinisterofTruth aka KSP, if this isn't good enough for you, I will be happy to come up with new results, in any text of your choosing. That way, you can verify each result as a valid "code." Feel free to suggest an impartial referee to validate the results.

4 days and counting, Sean. where's my ca$h? Do you know where your integrity is?
 
DaveThomasNMSR said:
Since Kevin Sean Proudler (MinisterofTruth) has declined to answer my questions, I'd like to just go ahead and establish why I think he owes me $100,000 Canadian.

Proudler's website's Bible Codes page introduces a "new" kind of Bible Code, in which great significance is given to Gematriacal values for English letters (Proudler searches the King James version of the Bible a lot).

For example, he assigns "G" a "Code 6" value of 42, as G is the 7th letter, and 7x6 = 42. Likewise, "O" (15th letter) has a Code 6 value of 90, and "D" (4th letter) a value of 24. Thus, "GOD" has a value of 42 + 90 + 24 = 156.

Proudler's game is this: he takes any term of interest (GOD, CHRIST, PROUDLER, etc.), and calculates its Code 6 value. Then, he uses those values to limit the steps for a traditional Bible Code search. He searches for various other terms between such given limits, and gets new numbers for the number of matches for these terms. Adding these new numbers together yields a new number, and if this number matches the Code 6 value for any other word of interest, Proudler claims it a "compelling match."

Here is one example, regarding the truther organization AE911Truth:
[qimg]http://www.nmsr.org/ksp_911.jpg[/qimg]

Here, KSP limits the step sizes to those between 1 and 156 (GOD), and then finds the corresponding numbers of matches for three terms (AENINE gave 357 hits, ELEVEN got 63 hits, and TRUTH got 1042 hits.) Summing these, 357+63+1042 = 1462, which contains (462), which is the Code 6 value for CHRIST.

KSP interprets this as meaning that "AE 911 TRUTH IS SUPPORTED BY THE TWO STILL STANDING TOWERS KNOWN AS GOD AND CHRIST !"

On this same page, Proudler announces that


Here's why I think I've earned that cash reward.

I have adapted my Bible Code application to do Proudler-style searches. Here's what I found code-wise using a couple books of Tolstoy's War and Peace as the search text (not the Bible, natch).

Sample result #1 (of thousands):

#matches(IDIOT) with skips from 378 [WACKY] to 654 [PROUDLER] =162 ['CODE']

Translation: "Searching in War and Peace, and restricting skip intervals to those lying between 378 and 654 (which happen to be the Gematriacal values of 'WACKY' and 'PROUDLER'), I found 162 matches of the word 'IDIOT'; the number 162 also happens to be the Gematrical value of 'CODE'."

In other words, "THE WACKY IDIOT CODE CAME FROM PROUDLER."

Here's another:
#matches(IDIOT) with skips from 911 to 2001 =654 [PROUDLER]

Translation: "Searching in War and Peace, and restricting skip intervals to those lying between 911 and 2001 (references to September 11th, 2001), I found 654 matches of the word 'IDIOT'; the number 654 also happens to be the Gematrical value of 'PROUDLER'."

In other words, "THE IDIOT 9/11 CODE CAME FROM PROUDLER."

I can crunch these out by the thousands.

What do you think, JREFers? Does Proudler owe me the $$$?

MinisterofTruth aka KSP, if this isn't good enough for you, I will be happy to come up with new results, in any text of your choosing. That way, you can verify each result as a valid "code." Feel free to suggest an impartial referee to validate the results.

Now, if KSP declines to comment, does anyone know what the correct branch of the Canadian Government is for addressing cases of Internet Fraud?
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THANKS for revealing Satan's nasty code work.

This has significantly strengthened the codes present within the KJV Bible and the Torah which I have revealed.

By the way, I have updated the Torah Video 3.4 min. section.
Click on the "JESUS CHRIST = 906" which is positioned just above the Torah Video.
 
MINISTERofTRUTH said:
THANKS for revealing Satan's nasty code work.

This has significantly strengthened the codes present within the KJV Bible and the Torah which I have revealed.
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How do you figure that? Finding your name associated with IDIOT in War and Peace somehow verifies your work with the bible?

Please let us know the logic behind this.
 
Um, MinisterofTruth, have you considered seeing, you know, a psychiatrist? You seem to have some problems.
 
Sherman Bay said:
How do you figure that? Finding your name associated with IDIOT in War and Peace somehow verifies your work with the bible?

Please let us know the logic behind this.
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God speaks truth, Satan deceives. It's not that complicated.

Click again on " JESUS CHRIST = 906 ".

It has been updated a step further concerning the, Word of God, the Holy Father.
 
MINISTERofTRUTH said:
Sherman Bay said:
How do you figure that? Finding your name associated with IDIOT in War and Peace somehow verifies your work with the bible?

Please let us know the logic behind this.
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God speaks truth, Satan deceives. It's not that complicated.

Click again on " JESUS CHRIST = 906 ".

It has been updated a step further concerning the, Word of God, the Holy Father.
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I see. Thanks for clearing that up.
 
MINISTERofTRUTH said:
THANKS for revealing Satan's nasty code work.

This has significantly strengthened the codes present within the KJV Bible and the Torah which I have revealed.

By the way, I have updated the Torah Video 3.4 min. section.
Click on the "JESUS CHRIST = 906" which is positioned just above the Torah Video.
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Oh Exalted One, we beleagured masses need your Instruction and Guidance to understand your Thoughts.

Please explain in simple English how it is that finding thousands of gematriacal "codes" in a non-sacred text, War and Peace (Tolstoy) in any way "strengthens the codes present within the KJV Bible and the Torah which I have revealed."

Cuz, I'm just not seeing that AT ALL.

Also, PLEASE RESPOND to this important request:
MinisterofTruth aka KSP, if this isn't good enough for you, I will be happy to come up with new results, in any text of your choosing. That way, you can verify each result as a valid "code." Feel free to suggest an impartial referee to validate the results. ​

Remember, we mere earthlings are not soaring with you through the Astral Plane. We need what is obvious to you spelled out to us.

In particular, exactly what do you require to prove to you that your lists of Bible decodings are simply coincidental?
 
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