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Israeli Mossad spying/infiltrating AQ pre 9-11

Senenmut said:
i always found it interesting that:
from a news article-
The driver of the van, Sivan Kurzberg, told the officers, "We are Israeli. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem."
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885&page=1

and then in the article written by gordon thomas:
"It came as Sharon faces mounting domestic and international pressure to find a way to stop more than 19 months of bloodshed and launch talks with the Palestinians."

why would that driver of the van say such a thing?
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Who knows, but 9/11 didn't cause a major shift in US policy in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, so why does this matter?
 
Senenmut- did you hear about the 3,000 Israelis who mysteriously did not go to work on 9-11??????
 
Senenmut said:
debunked??? or just swept under the table kinda like that 3 or 4 part fox news show about the israeli spy ring.
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Yes, debunked. The fact that you can't seem to grasp why those maps are meaningless makes it clear why you think otherwise.
 
Senenmut said:
do ya know what infiltration means?


look at the maps posted.
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Still unresponded "Cite examples of when the supposed Mossad agents and the hijackers stayed at locations close to each other at the same time not weeks/months before or after. " get back to us when you can, i.e. probablly never
 
Senenmut said:
i always found it interesting that:
from a news article-
The driver of the van, Sivan Kurzberg, told the officers, "We are Israeli. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem."
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885&page=1
why would that driver of the van say such a thing?
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It might have been interesting if the attacks were blamed on Palestians, one could ask - how did he know? But none of the 19 hijakers, AQ high command, planners of the attack or Hamburg cell were Palestians
 
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chipmunk stew said:
9/11 Truth does nothing but fabricate lies. It's a pitiful irony.
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Senenmut said:
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"The CIA owns everyone of any significance in the major media."
--Former CIA Director William Colby
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Like Senenmut's signature - it's a lie. Colby never said such a thing. As I recall, I traced it back to a conspiracy guy who wrote a book that claims a woman radio interviewer told him that Colby told her this. This quote then infected all noncondomed truther sites, and has landed here, a lying piece of truther viral pus.

This CIA/journalists thing began with an article by Woodward/Bernstein in Rolling Stone, 1977, where they revealed some journalists also spied on the Reds. The Reds did this too. It was and is common knowledge that being a journalist can be a cover for asking a lot of questions, like when I was in Moscow in 1985, this Soviet "journalist" appeared, unknown to any of us and tagged along our touring group; although he may have also hung around for the then scarce beers and cigarettes he bummed off us.


ps. I live in a small out of the way city the hijackers did not visit and where two separate groups of self identified "Israeli art students" years ago tried to sell me some paintings. They visited my office unannounced, one guy trudging about a dozen paintings up the stairs. He looked like he really wanted to sell the paintings and offered me discounts. The paintings were not bad if you like Kinkade. Seems like a lot of work to spy on an architect.
 
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Senenmut said:
debunked??? or just swept under the table kinda like that 3 or 4 part fox news show about the israeli spy ring.
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no, the Israeli "spy" ring myth was indeed debunked.

and the debunking info is here at JREF.

does anyone have it handy?
 
Doctor Evil said:
The OP is of course rubbish, but there is a point I wanted to make here.

Actually, Israel has very little intel on Al Qaeda, and this is unlikely to change any time soon. Over the years I have seen many discussions to that effect in TV.

The reasons are priorities and the nature of the organisation. As a whole, Al Qaeda is a secondary threat to Israel - as they have so far not attacked it. Do not get me wrong, they did attack Jewish targets around the world, which is a concern. As a result, Israel have much clearer priorities, namely getting good intel on Hamas, Hizbulla, etc. To add to that, Al Quaeda is notoriously hard to break into, due to its structure. (Small groups of radicals, which are loosely associated with each other.)
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wrong,
Adam Yahiye Gadahn
 
chipmunk stew said:
Who knows, but 9/11 didn't cause a major shift in US policy in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, so why does this matter?
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Israel achieved their foreign policy aims by letting 9/11 proceed. The US was at war. Israel then launched their previously plan anthrax attacks upon the US Senate and media. Shortly thereafter with the help of the neocons they misdirected the US into attacking Iraq and overthrowing Sadam.

Clever Jews
 
Lenbrazil said:
Still unresponded "Cite examples of when the supposed Mossad agents and the hijackers stayed at locations close to each other at the same time not weeks/months before or after. " get back to us when you can, i.e. probablly never
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Check with the FBI on that. They are the ones who came to that conclusion.
 
BasqueArch said:
Like Senenmut's signature - it's a lie. Colby never said such a thing. As I recall, I traced it back to a conspiracy guy who wrote a book that claims a woman radio interviewer told him that Colby told her this. This quote then infected all noncondomed truther sites, and has landed here, a lying piece of truther viral pus.

This CIA/journalists thing began with an article by Woodward/Bernstein in Rolling Stone, 1977, where they revealed some journalists also spied on the Reds. The Reds did this too. It was and is common knowledge that being a journalist can be a cover for asking a lot of questions, like when I was in Moscow in 1985, this Soviet "journalist" appeared, unknown to any of us and tagged along our touring group; although he may have also hung around for the then scarce beers and cigarettes he bummed off us.


ps. I live in a small out of the way city the hijackers did not visit and where two separate groups of self identified "Israeli art students" years ago tried to sell me some paintings. They visited my office unannounced, one guy trudging about a dozen paintings up the stairs. He looked like he really wanted to sell the paintings and offered me discounts. The paintings were not bad if you like Kinkade. Seems like a lot of work to spy on an architect.
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operation mockingbird

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird
 
MaGZ said:
Israel achieved their foreign policy aims by letting 9/11 proceed. The US was at war. Israel then launched their previously plan anthrax attacks upon the US Senate and media. Shortly thereafter with the help of the neocons they misdirected the US into attacking Iraq and overthrowing Sadam.

Clever Jews
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office of special plans
 
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