Israeli Apartheid?
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For someone who so easily accuses others of lying, you really ought to take greater care in posting accurate informaton, especially when the information is nothing you have seen first-hand, just what you have seen in the media. You should be more sophisticated than to think the media are always accurate in their Middle East reporting. You never actually saw signs "Jew-Only" in the West Bank because they don't exist. CNN.com, the Associated Press and Ha'aretz have all issued corrections on this story, which you conveniently overlooked...
The initial report contained the inaccurate statement: "Israel at 60 is a place where creativity flourishes but where Palestinians are not allowed on West Bank roads reserved for Jews."
The corrected statement: "Israel at 60 is a place where creativity flourishes but where Palestinians are not allowed on West Bank roads reserved for Israelis".
The distinction? All Israelis--Muslim, Christian and Jewish alike--use the West Bank roads closed to Palestinian traffic due to security reasons.
If this were a court, of law, you would be known as a tainted witness, and, so, I am not even going to bother addressing your other false, misleading and malicious accusations.
If a road goes from one Jew-only settlement to another Jew-only settlement, its safe to assume only Jews use it.
As for my other points, you have no response cause they are all true.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
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You've made yourself look foolish and discredited yourself too many times to remember on this forum. Even zionists are contending your nonsense arguments. You have frequently proved that your knowledge of the issues are almost non-existence apart from your scurries of to Wikipedia.
Why do you carry on? I've seen no one take you seriously and I've seen no one agree with you. Well apart from one fellow Israel atrocity Denier.
What are you trying to communicate? Are you seriously trying to convince people that Israel is some innocent victim who hasn't committed atrocities against humanity? No one apart from the deniers is biting on your propaganda.
The ADL handbook is out of date. It doesn't work anymore. All the old arguments that were effective 50 years ago don't wash anymore..
Give up dude.
You are seriously delusional. I've reviewed several of your previous posts and you clearly suffer from a reputation with others for bloviation and histrionics without any facts or backup. Frankly, you're a complete waste of my time as you aren't even a worthy debater, but, it's diffcult for me to let your baseless accusations and unsubstantiated, malicious attacks on Israel go uncontested. [/QUOTE]
Please keep in mind the Membership Agreement and do not use personal attacks to argue your point.
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Umm....ok.
Because each of your posts is more inane than the previous one. You have a perfect record: You're 100% wrong.
You suffer from acute delusions of grandeur. You envision yourself as, what, the spokesman for an Internet message board? If it helps improve your self-esteem, then I suppose your presence has some marginal value.
A more sober and accurate representation of history and current events, to provide a counterbalance to your hyperbolic gibberish.
Who are these people, your imaginary allies on the Internet? Get a grip, man!
Your tired and sophomoric cliches and juvenile tirades are out-of-date.
Why deny me the simple pleasure of making you look like the uninformed hack you truly are? Have a heart.
Tin Foil Timothy
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Looking at your post above I nearly pat my coffee over the monitor when I arrived the accusation of 'hyperbolic gibberish.' Oh the irony.
You being an Israeli Atrocity Denier is one thing but making yourself look further and further more foolish every day is getting rather entertaining. I predict that eventually you will reach a critical mass and explode into the oblivion of dead and gone cyber warriors.
I've seen many posters like you come and go over the years.
Go right ahead my little denialist!
Looking at your post above I nearly pat my coffee over the monitor when I arrived the accusation of 'hyperbolic gibberish.' Oh the irony.
Have you completed the task I gave you researching the key issue that constitutes a war crime? Wouldn't want to you to continue your blanket accusations of Israeli war crimes without your actually knowing what a war crime is. Let's take things one at a tme. You hand in your assignment and then we can discuss my being an "Israeli Atrocity Denier" Can I call myself an IAD for short? It's much easier that way. As for me looking foolish, I've shown some of your remarks to other members of the IAD and we all find you very entertaining, though, not in a very flattering way, so keep 'em coming!
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yawn
what is this nonsense you are posting?
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Its called patronization in place of a reply. I've had a word to him and gave him some wise advice......"don't ever patronize people son...."
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And having the incredible urge to reply..even though one has nothing really to say.
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What a ridiculous statement. As a kid, I lived on a road in the U.S. that only had Whites living on it. Safe to say that the U.S. has Whites-only roads?
Even if (and that's a big if) only Jews used certain roads, are Arab Israelis banned from using them? If not, they are NOT Jew-only roads.
I didnt say only Jews live in these towns. I aid ONLY Jews are ALLOWED to live in these towns.
There is a BIG difference.
If a nation is made of cities, towns, and villages, where ONLY Jews are allowed to live, that nation is pretty much an Apartheid nation.
Zero. Zero Israeli Arabs live in the settlements. They were built on private property, illegally taken from Arabs, built with Arab-Israeli taxpayer money, knowing full well Arabs would not be allowed to live there.
But its not Apartheid. It would be anti-Semitic to suggest such
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Are only Jews allowed to use certain roads?
ETA: My point is, if you are accusing Israel of Apartheid, using lies to prove it doesn't help your cause.
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I have said it before and I will say it again. Israel's version of Apartheid, known as "Hafrada", is not indentical to SA's Apartheid or the American South's Segregation.
They are all different...but all similar. It is Israel's version. It is called Hafrada. And it is outright racism against Arabs..both citizens and non-citizens of Israel.
Stop denying the truth that is in your face. Israel will not exist in 50 years if this does not end.
They are all different...but all similar. It is Israel's version. It is called Hafrada. And it is outright racism against Arabs..both citizens and non-citizens of Israel.
Stop denying the truth that is in your face. Israel will not exist in 50 years if this does not end.
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While I think Apartheid is a misnomer, I will agree that having Jew-only settlements, as well as other rights that apply to Israeli Jews and not Israeli Arabs, is racist and I don't agree with those policies. However, I don't need to make up lies to support my beliefs, such as "there are Jew-only roads". Why not just retract that claim and move on, if you are not able to provide evidence that there are roads that Arab Israelis are banned from using?