Israel, Secret Weapons, Venunu, Suicide Bombers

[a_unique_person]

I asked what would YOU do? The crux of the problem (yes, I agree that there is a problem) is that these guys aren't being apprehended in the "usual" way (whether because the PA don't want to, or Israel cant send in guys without a massive urban battle erupting). If you discount those options then what are you left with? Leave them alone, leading to more civilian deaths (that in our hypothetical YOU are supposed to be preventing) or try and hit them with precision strikes? Are there other options? If so, please share... what is your "lesser evil" option?

There is a low level war going on. More Palestinains are dying than Israeli's. Let's not forget the children, more Palestinian children are dying than Isreali children. One day, both sides may want to achieve a real peace. Until then, people on both sides will keep dying and suffering.

 

[Skeptic]

There is a low level war going on. More Palestinains are dying than Israeli's. Let's not forget the children, more Palestinian children are dying than Isreali children.

So the side who has more casualties is in the right and has justice on their side? On this view, Germany and Japan were significanly more right and just than the USA in WWII.

In reality, the Palestinians might have has slightly less casualties if they had accepted a state in 9/00, instead of starting a terror war for israel's annihilation.

One day, both sides may want to achieve a real peace.

But you keep portratying israel COLONIALIST RACIST NATION that has NO RIGHT TO EXIST and whose VERY EXISTENCE is the cause of all their suffering, and justify all attacks on it as brave resistance.

So now you want "both sides" to want to achieve peace? Does this mean you changed your mind and accepted israel has a right to exist?

Oh wait, I forget: it is only when israel fights back that you are suddenly concerned about "peace". As long as it is Palestinian attacks, you don't care.

What you really call "peace" is "israel surrendering".

 

[a_unique_person]

There is a low level war going on. More Palestinains are dying than Israeli's. Let's not forget the children, more Palestinian children are dying than Isreali children.

So the side who has more casualties is in the right and has justice on their side? On this view, Germany and Japan were significanly more right and just than the USA in WWII.

In reality, the Palestinians might have has slightly less casualties if they had accepted a state in 9/00, instead of starting a terror war for israel's annihilation.

One day, both sides may want to achieve a real peace.

But you keep portratying israel COLONIALIST RACIST NATION that has NO RIGHT TO EXIST and whose VERY EXISTENCE is the cause of all their suffering, and justify all attacks on it as brave resistance.

So now you want "both sides" to want to achieve peace? Does this mean you changed your mind and accepted israel has a right to exist?

Oh wait, I forget: it is only when israel fights back that you are suddenly concerned about "peace". As long as it is Palestinian attacks, you don't care.

What you really call "peace" is "israel surrendering".

That is your opinion, I don't agree with it.

Let me ask you, how should the people who lived in that area have responded to the notion that a new country is being created, that they live in, that states that it is being created for a racial group that they don't belong to?

I have already said that Zionism was a logical result of anti-semitism, and particularly the Holocaust. I don't see why it had to be at the expense of the people who lived in the area that was chosen to create a Jewish state. They were not the perpetrators of the Holocaust. Yet they still see extremists, with a lot of power, saying that nothing less than a return to 'biblical' borders is acceptable. Children are growing up knowing only a life in which hostile tanks and helicopter gunships roam the streets at will.

 

[Giz]

There is a low level war going on. More Palestinains are dying than Israeli's. Let's not forget the children, more Palestinian children are dying than Isreali children. One day, both sides may want to achieve a real peace. Until then, people on both sides will keep dying and suffering.

So what would YOU do? I see criticisms of Israeli actions from you and The Fool but nothing in the way of alternatives... unless you consider treating terrorist leaders as sacrosanct as an alternative. Viable course of action please...

 

[a_unique_person]

So what would YOU do? I see criticisms of Israeli actions from you and The Fool but nothing in the way of alternatives... unless you consider treating terrorist leaders as sacrosanct as an alternative. Viable course of action please...

Who said I had an alternative? The best political minds in the world have been nutting this one out for 50 years now, and are no closer to a solution than they were at the start.

Call me when both sides really want peace. Just don't blame it all on the Palestinians.

 

[Giz]

Who said I had an alternative? The best political minds in the world have been nutting this one out for 50 years now, and are no closer to a solution than they were at the start.

Call me when both sides really want peace. Just don't blame it all on the Palestinians.

I wasn't really asking for a solution on the strategic/political level. I had been asking for a practical course of action the IDF could use to constrain terrorist leaders (rockets being abhored - and I can see why, I just cant see any other way).

If you did have a solution to the "big" problem there'd be a million dollars headed your way.

And, most importantly, this forum would probably whither and die. (So if you do, keep it to yourself, eh?)

 

[demon]

ZN:
"Now that sounds like an "alternative media" source you can trust! "


Ok, I`ll see if I can dig something up from The Old Testament next time, maybe a quote from King David or Solomon.
Howz that for you?