Israel-Palestine: The Solution

[zenith-nadir]

The whole violence business started when the Zionists first tried to impose a state where someone else already lived. For some reason, these people didn't like the idea that their land was to be taken from them. The idea that violence in this area is only a recent phenomenon is what's insane.

Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!! Pure comedy!

"The whole violence business started when the Zionists first tried to impose a state where someone else already lived."

Synagogues were burnt in Egypt, Syria, Iraq, and Yemen for centuries. In 1945 there were more than 900,000 Jews living in Arabic speaking countries. Today, there are less than 8,000. Some Arab states like Libya, Algeria, Syria, Tunisia and Yemen forcibly expelled all Jews and have no jews living there.

So while the jews were being forcibly expelled from every Arab country during WW2 and European jews were being killed wholesale in Europe the United Nations decided to pass U.N. Resolution 181.

United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181 called for the partition of the British-ruled Palestine Mandate into a Jewish state and an Arab state. It was approved on November 29, 1947 with 33 votes in favor, 13 against, 10 abstentions and one absent.

The resolution was accepted by the Jews in Palestine, yet rejected by the Arabs in Palestine and the Arab states.

On May 15, 1948, the day the British Mandate over Palestine ended, the armies of five neighboring Arab states invaded the new State of Israel, which had declared its independence the previous day. The invasion, heralded by an Egyptian air attack on Tel Aviv, was vigorously resisted. From the north, east and south came the armies of Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Transjordan, and Egypt.




Those well-documented facts in history are characterized by a_unique_person as;

"The whole violence business started when the Zionists first tried to impose a state where someone else already lived."

Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!! Pure comedy!

 

[a_unique_person]

Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!! Pure comedy!

"The whole violence business started when the Zionists first tried to impose a state where someone else already lived."

Synagogues were burnt in Egypt, Syria, Iraq, and Yemen for centuries. In 1945 there were more than 900,000 Jews living in Arabic speaking countries. Today, there are less than 8,000. Some Arab states like Libya, Algeria, Syria, Tunisia and Yemen forcibly expelled all Jews and have no jews living there.

You forgot the part about the ethnic cleansing business starting when Israel expelled as many Arabs as it could. Yes, there was violence there before, as there was in the rest of the world. I was referring to the current 'troubles'.

So while the jews were being forcibly expelled from every Arab country during WW2 and European jews were being killed wholesale in Europe the United Nations decided to pass U.N. Resolution 181.

United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181 called for the partition of the British-ruled Palestine Mandate into a Jewish state and an Arab state. It was approved on November 29, 1947 with 33 votes in favor, 13 against, 10 abstentions and one absent.

The resolution was accepted by the Jews in Palestine, yet rejected by the Arabs in Palestine and the Arab states.
On May 15, 1948, the day the British Mandate over Palestine ended, the armies of five neighboring Arab states invaded the new State of Israel, which had declared its independence the previous day. The invasion, heralded by an Egyptian air attack on Tel Aviv, was vigorously resisted. From the north, east and south came the armies of Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Transjordan, and Egypt.

Those well-documented facts in history are characterized by a_unique_person as;

"The whole violence business started when the Zionists first tried to impose a state where someone else already lived."

Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!! Pure comedy!

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Of course they rejected it. I would like to see the reaction of the US to an UN resolution giving Texas to Spain. I can safely predict an armed response. And it was nice of Europe, the US and GB to salve their consciences for what they had done to the Jews of Europe by giving them Arab land.

Needless to say, Israel couldn't give a damm for anything the UN has to say on the matter now. It won't even let UN observers in to see what they are up to.

 

[CapelDodger]

from zenith-nadir:

Synagogues were burnt in Egypt, Syria, Iraq, and Yemen for centuries. In 1945 there were more than 900,000 Jews living in Arabic speaking countries. Today, there are less than 8,000. Some Arab states like Libya, Algeria, Syria, Tunisia and Yemen forcibly expelled all Jews and have no jews living there.

What is remarkable is the way in which the existence of so many Jews in the hell-hole apocalypse of the Middle East, communities which had existed for centuries if not millenia, is put forward as evidence of the need for Israel. Within 20 years of the establishment of the Jewish State those communities which had existed for so long were effectively extinguished. And this is regarded by idiots as evidence in favour of the establishment of a Jewish State.

 

[Mycroft]

Originally posted by a_unique_person
You forgot the part about the ethnic cleansing business starting when Israel expelled as many Arabs as it could. Yes, there was violence there before, as there was in the rest of the world. I was referring to the current 'troubles'.

Really? What was Arab violence against Jews if not an attempt at ethnic cleansing? Surely the goal was to get rid of them, was it not?

Originally posted by a_unique_person
Of course they rejected it. I would like to see the reaction of the US to an UN resolution giving Texas to Spain. I can safely predict an armed response. And it was nice of Europe, the US and GB to salve their consciences for what they had done to the Jews of Europe by giving them Arab land.

Not a very good analogy. To make it work you would have to dissolve all United States government above the county level and introduce persecuted Spanish-speaking immigrants from around the world to a small portion of southern Texas, then start creating new nations of the various regions that used to be the United States including a nation of Spanish people in Texas. Would there be an armed response then? It doesn't seem likely to me.

 

[epepke]

The epepke post made me think,

Thank you and Cleopatra. These are high accolades indeed. I generally don't try to persuade people, because

1) I'm never quite sure what I want to persuade them of,
2) Who cares? As if anybody here really had the power to change things, and
3) Persuasion is just an ape game anyway.

But if I can make someone think, that's a good thing.

 

[Mycroft]

Originally posted by epepke

Thank you and Cleopatra. These are high accolades indeed. I generally don't try to persuade people, because

1) I'm never quite sure what I want to persuade them of,
2) Who cares? As if anybody here really had the power to change things, and
3) Persuasion is just an ape game anyway.

But if I can make someone think, that's a good thing.

You are very thought provoking; I enjoy reading your posts.

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the value of these discussions. Ideas have a way of getting around, whatever their source. In any case, an individuals responsibility is to the environment he has influence over, whatever that is.

 

[epepke]

You are very thought provoking; I enjoy reading your posts.

I'm blushing. No, I lie--it's the rosacea.

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the value of these discussions. Ideas have a way of getting around, whatever their source.

I don't dismiss the discussions per se; otherwise, I wouldn't bother participating. But what's one more cheerleader, on one side or the other, or however many sides there are, spouting the same old hoohah that we've heard a thousand times before?

But if someone thinks a bit more or even just in a slightly different way, they might come up with a new idea. That happens rarely, but a new idea can change the world.