Islamic terrorist attack in Bangladesh

Bangladesh is a cultural battleground for (fill in the blank) reason.

Can someone please fill in the blank for me? There's got to be something more to than this than attention whoring by ISIS.
 
Bangladesh is a cultural battleground for (fill in the blank) reason.
Religious.

Can someone please fill in the blank for me? There's got to be something more to than this than attention whoring by ISIS.
The blank is religion. The jihadists asked all of the people in the cafe to recite any verses from the Koran. If you could not, you were presumed to be non-Muslim and you were then killed with a bladed weapon. It's not yet known if they were beheaded but it's possible. Stabbed, slashed or beheaded. Because religion.
 
28 dead =
20 hostages.
2 cops.
6 attackers.

I think I have that right.

ETA: If you could recite the Koran you weren't just spared. You were allowed to eat too.
 
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Now everyone is going to go out and buy a Koran and memorize some passages.

"Infidel, recite from the Koran!"
"The lord is my shepherd- no, wait!"
 
Where is the Tu Quoque? This post has made it pretty long already and no apologists for once
 
Memorize some Koran, It Could Save Your Life!
Wear a hijab, It Could Save Your Life!
Stay out of nightclubs, gay or otherwise, It Could Save Your Life!

And that's how they win.
 
Local media is reporting that some were beheaded. That happened while the cops were waiting for negotiations.
 
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I don't know what the dictionary definition of hostage is, but I don't think that these people were hostages. They were captives for some minutes before they were executed. In my mind a hostage is something different than that.
 
The Qur'an thing was undoubtedly to try and specifically target Westerners, since ISIS sure as **** doesn't actually care about sparing Muslims who don't subscribe to their particular extremist interpretation or pledge allegiance to their cause.
 
They killed Japanese, Bangladeshis and Indians. Those are not Westerners. They killed them because they weren't Muslims.
 
They killed Japanese, Bangladeshis and Indians. Those are not Westerners. They killed them because they weren't Muslims.

"Westerners" is not a geographic designation.

And the ability to recite the Qur'an sure isn't preventing the Shia, Sufis, and Sunni declared takfir from being murdered en masse by ISIS in the Levant and northern Iraq/Kurdistan.
 
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/25/isis-ethnic-cleansing-shia-prisoners-iraq-mosul

Citing testimony from eyewitnesses and survivors, the UN said Islamic State gunmen arrived at the front gate in a group of pick-up trucks. Several carried machine guns. They took out the prisoners and sorted them into two groups, Sunni and 670 Shias. The fighters grilled the Sunni group, asked them to recite prayers, and interrogated them about family backgrounds. Some Shia prisoners tried to pass themselves off as Sunni. They were discovered and returned to the Shia line-up.

The Islamic State militants told their Shia captives they would be "released" once their identities were verified. The prisoners had to give a number in turn – beginning with one, with the last prisoner saying: "I'm 679". The fighters then loaded the them into trucks and drove three to four kilometres south-east to an uninhabited "desert-like location", somewhere between Mosul's main road and its railway line.

According to the UN, the prisoners were lined up in four rows. They were told to kneel, and then shot. The UN said a handful survived by playing dead. It said it conducted extensive interviews with 20 survivors of the massacre and 16 further witnesses, with evidence taken in Irbil, the capital of Iraqi Kurdistan, and Basra.

[...]

Kurdish officials in Irbil confirmed that Islamic State had separated Sunni and Shia inmates after taking over Badoush and other prisons. They said that some Shia prisoners from Badoush were killed by Islamic State, with Sunnis freed after swearing allegiance to Isis.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29026491

An Amnesty report released on Tuesday said it had gathered proof that several mass killings took place in the northern region of Sinjar in August.

Two of the deadliest took place when IS fighters raided villages and killed hundreds of people on 3 August and 15 August. "Groups of men and boys including children as young as 12 from both villages were seized by IS militants, taken away and shot," the UK-based group said.

"IS is carrying out despicable crimes and has transformed rural areas of Sinjar into blood-soaked killing fields in its brutal campaign to obliterate all trace of non-Arabs and non-Sunni Muslims."

Unlike almost any armed faction in history, Islamic State (IS) militants go out of their way to advertise and publicise their most atrocious deeds on the internet.

They include the mass murder of hundreds of Shia soldiers or militia captured in Tikrit, the similar fate dealt to scores of Syrian troops taken prisoner after the fall of Tabqa airbase last month, several filmed decapitations - including US journalist James Foley - and many other blood-curdling incidents.

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Thousands of minority Shia Turkmen had been holding out in Amerli, and the UN had expressed fears there could be a massacre if IS captured it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...8b0fb2-76c8-4796-83f7-840c277e93d8_story.html

The villagers lowered 15 bodies into a mass grave here Monday. Two of the dead were young girls. The rest were men. All had been executed at point-blank range by al-Qaeda-inspired rebels and their allies, during what witnesses say was an attack aimed at destroying four Shiite Turkmen communities.

The accounts are among the first to emerge from the villages south of Kirkuk, where residents say a massacre was carried out last week by Sunni fighters with the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and people who live in nearby Sunni communities.

Human rights groups have expressed horror at a rising tide of sectarian violence in Iraq, including reports from ISIS-controlled areas of beheadings and executions of Shiite religious leaders, civilians and captured security forces. But the residents of the string of Shiite Turkmen villages provided some of the most detailed firsthand accounts of the insurgents’ brutality since ISIS fighters seized control of the northern city of Mosul two weeks ago.

Since then, the insurgents have swept toward the south and west, driving to create a Sunni Muslim nation, governed by Islamic law, stretching across Iraq and Syria. Among those caught in the crosshairs are Iraq’s Turkmens, a minority in this mostly Arab nation, speaking a language that derives from Turkish. While some are Sunni, others are Shiite Muslims — considered apostates by ISIS.

It is not yet clear how many people were killed in the attack on the four farming villages. Gen. Turhan Abdel-Rahman, Kirkuk’s deputy police chief, said he knew of at least 40 slain residents — 25 from three villages who were buried Sunday, plus the 15 interred Monday, who were from the fourth town, Bashir. “There are other bodies still inside Bashir,” he said.

Scores of people are missing, said more than a dozen residents who spoke to The Washington Post on Monday. Thousands have fled to nearby Shiite communities. The Associated Press first reported on the attack and the expulsions.
 
Now everyone is going to go out and buy a Koran and memorize some passages.

"Infidel, recite from the Koran!"
"The lord is my shepherd- no, wait!"

I have a couple of non-religious family members who have done that very thing (minus the "The lord is my shepherd" part). They frequent some hot spots in the ME, and want every advantage they can have just in case.
 
Where is the Tu Quoque? This post has made it pretty long already and no apologists for once

Ah, preemptive whining that not everyone will buy the same narrative you are going to push. Must be difficult when that narrative is predicated on people disagreeing with you.

Apologists? For ISIS? I can think of two, but they are generally confined to the non-US politics section and are really more anti-US than ISIS apologists. What do you mean by apologists.

Gun Control! Gay Rage! Colonialism! Everything But Islam!!!

Right? It's so confusing when people have to try to understand something rather than accept a simplistic answer that has no ability to help a damn thing.

And there it is

Ohhh, people who understand what is going on beyond 'Muslims bad', and point out that ISIS kills lots of Muslims are apologists.

Yeah, no. Hell no in fact. That's some fine straw grasping to say that ISIS generally has no problem killing lots of Muslims because they're the kind of evil ******** who commit atrocities like murdering a bunch of Muslims is apologetic for them. You'd have to think that killing a bunch of Muslims is a mitigating element, or positive element of ISIS.

Oh...oh wow. Wait. Now I get it. Damn.
 
BBC is reporting that some of the attackers were already known to the police as bad guys.
 
From today's NYT:

The police declined to name the young men because nobody had shown up as of Sunday night to identify their bodies, but friends and relatives recognized photographs that were posted on a messaging app by the Islamic State, along with praise for the violence.

The men, all in their late teens or early 20s, were products of Bangladesh’s elite, several having attended one of the country’s top English-medium private schools as well as universities both in the country and abroad.

Among them was the son of a former city leader in the prime minister’s own Awami League, the governing party.

“That’s what we’re absolutely riveted by,” said Kazi Anis Ahmed, a writer and publisher of the daily newspaper The Dhaka Tribune. “That these kids from very affluent families with no material want can still be turned to this kind of ideology, motivated not just to the point of killing but also want to be killed.”

That children of the country’s upper classes appear to have joined militant Islamists in an act of such brutality highlighted the radicalization among the largely moderate Muslim population here, a process that has accelerated in recent years.

Let's at least admit that in this instance, nothing, ---- absolutely nothing ---- in the lives of the attackers can be used to excuse their behavior. They were not subject to discrimination in some Western ghetto, they did not suffer economic deprivation, they were not from a repressed minority. This time, clearly and starkly for all to see, we have people, with no other possible motive other than a belief in Islam, committing terrorist acts.

It would seem Islam is, indeed, a steaming load of crock. No excuses left!!
 
From today's NYT:



Let's at least admit that in this instance, nothing, ---- absolutely nothing ---- in the lives of the attackers can be used to excuse their behavior. They were not subject to discrimination in some Western ghetto, they did not suffer economic deprivation, they were not from a repressed minority. This time, clearly and starkly for all to see, we have people, with no other possible motive other than a belief in Islam, committing terrorist acts.

It would seem Islam is, indeed, a steaming load of crock. No excuses left!!

So is Christianity and Judaism. That doesn't make Christians or Jews bad, nor does believing in a crock of **** make a particular Muslim bad. There are plenty of moderate Muslims who live peacefully in the U.S. who have come to terms somehow with ignoring the really vile stuff and focusing on the more spiritual parts of the Koran, just like no Christians anymore want to stone witches.
 

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