Isagenix

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I find it difficult to rationalize this statement:

If these tough times have you worried about job security or about losing your position, your worries stop here. Isagenix can help you redefine your lifestyle. You may want to make $500 a month to make a car payment, or $100,000 a month to live the life of your dreams. No matter what you want, it’s here for you. Join us!

With the disclosure that less than 1% of their "business builders" average more than $320,000 a year. Surely there ought to be more people who want to make "$100,000 a month to live the life of your dreams?"

If my calculator is correct, that figure works out to over a million dollars a year.

I'm getting the "sounds to good to be true" feeling.

 

[icerat]

I find it difficult to rationalize this statement:


With the disclosure that less than 1% of their "business builders" average more than $320,000 a year. Surely there ought to be more people who want to make "$100,000 a month to live the life of your dreams?"

If my calculator is correct, that figure works out to over a million dollars a year.

I'm getting the "sounds to good to be true" feeling.

Despite what you might of heard from The Secret, merely wanting to make $100,000 a month is rarely sufficient to actually get it.

US laws don't necessarily apply in Australia.

Yeah, sorry, should have looked for Oz stuff.

Isagenix Australia is a DSAA member, which includes the same code of ethics as the US version.

They have a "universal" income disclosure that covers all markets
85% refund on return of sales tools, not the best in the industry, but reasonable.

Isagenix Australia has 30 day money back guarantee on initial product order, including opened product. Again, not the best in the industry, but reasonable.

 

[marplots]

Despite what you might of heard from The Secret, merely wanting to make $100,000 a month is rarely sufficient to actually get it.

Does that mean you agree this bit from Isagenix is inflated and hype?

Isagenix can help you redefine your lifestyle. You may want to make $500 a month to make a car payment, or $100,000 a month to live the life of your dreams. No matter what you want, it’s here for you. Join us!

If it's not exaggeration, what does it mean?

 

[icerat]

Does that mean you agree this bit from Isagenix is inflated and hype?

Not necessarily - they didn't claim you could make the money simply by "wanting" it. You implied that, not them.

Having said that, the income disclosure reveals in the fine print that there's only been 75 associates (0.45%) make $1,000,000 cumulatively. While someone did do that in just one year, the fact the average of those earning over $100,000/yr is only $320,687 it's obvious the number making $100,000/mth is very small indeed.

So yes, $100,000/mth, while possible and thus strictly not over-inflated, I agree is over-hyping.

 

[arthwollipot]

ETA: It also took me less than 10 seconds on google scholar to find quite a bit of info on Isagenix's science claims, which Dr H said she couldn't find.

This link goes to Isagenix's "Science Newsletter" which appears to me to be fairly short on citations to actual studies of the products' efficacy (quite apart from it being a vehicle of marketing for the products). Are there any good-quality placebo controlled double blinded studies on the efficacy of Isagenix products? I tried looking up some stuff on Pubmed and quickly got the answer that I'm way below the level of specialised education required to evaluate what I found.

 

[icerat]

This link goes to Isagenix's "Science Newsletter" which appears to me to be fairly short on citations to actual studies of the products' efficacy (quite apart from it being a vehicle of marketing for the products). Are there any good-quality placebo controlled double blinded studies on the efficacy of Isagenix products? I tried looking up some stuff on Pubmed and quickly got the answer that I'm way below the level of specialised education required to evaluate what I found.

Due to a blend of scientific, legal, and commercial reasons you, alas, won't find too many of those types of studies on any nutritional product - and when you do, they'll almost certainly be at least partly funded by the company in question, with all the issues that entails.

I found nothing referencing isagenix on pubmed, it instead showed results for isogenic. The link to the newsletters, btw, was in response to a comment about not being able to find info about their scientific claims

 

[arthwollipot]

Yes, you can read what they claim on their website. That is obvious, and not in the least bit helpful. But how do I know if those claims are backed by solid scientific evidence? The newsletter cites papers, sure. But they appear to me to be supporting particular claims that aren't directly related to the products themselves.

Scientific studies have shown that caffeine causes myxomatosis in black-footed ferrets (link to paper), so we don't put caffeine in our products.

That said, I only briefly looked through a couple of issues of the newsletter, so I may just have been unlucky.