Is your atheism predominately a science success or a theism fail?

[Thor 2]

Unless you DO believe in god(s) you're not a theist, and that means you're an atheist.

I like the sound of your family

I find it interesting that many seem reluctant to adopt the term atheist to describe themselves. It's almost as if they see this as distasteful. I can recall Richard Dawkins describing a conversation between a mother and her daughter, who self identified as atheist.

"Atheist" the mother exclaimed. "I can accept you not believing in God, but an atheist never!"

 

[Ron_Tomkins]

I'm actually more of an Apatheist. And I consider that a "mankind fail". In short: People (both religious and atheists) perpetually arguing back and forth about God, has finally made me not give a ******* rat's ass about the subject anymore.

 

[ynot]

I'm actually more of an Apatheist. And I consider that a "mankind fail". In short: People (both religious and atheists) perpetually arguing back and forth about God, has finally made me not give a ******* rat's ass about the subject anymore.

You have at least enough ******* rat's ass to post here.

Do you give a ******* rat's ass about the negative impacts theism has around the world?

How's that book/essay thing coming along?

 

[ynot]

I find it interesting that many seem reluctant to adopt the term atheist to describe themselves. It's almost as if they see this as distasteful. I can recall Richard Dawkins describing a conversation between a mother and her daughter, who self identified as atheist.

"Atheist" the mother exclaimed. "I can accept you not believing in God, but an atheist never!"

Unfortunately "atheist" means different things to different people and always will. Shame there isn't an appropriate word that everyone can agree on. At least I've never found one. I guess using a word to describe what you're not rather than what you are is doomed to failure.

I've come to accept the label of atheist along all the definitions for myself (but not all other atheists). Like all atheists I am one because I'm not a theist. I also claim however that I know gods don't exist other than as belief characters, and I'm happy to defend that claim. I'm not happy that "agnostic" or "undecided" are often claimed to be positions between theism and atheism. I'm not so unhappy however that I feel the need to blow people up or fly planes into buildings full of people. Guess I must be a "weak-atheist" after all

 

[Tommy Jeppesen]

You have at least enough ******* rat's ass to post here.

Do you give a ******* rat's ass about the negative impacts theism has around the world? How's that book/essay thing coming along?

Yes, I do. But from that doesn't follow what to do about that.
Fact: Theism has negative impacts around the world.
Fact: That is not unique to theism.
Therefore: ?

What follows, ynot?

 

[Darat]

I find it interesting that many seem reluctant to adopt the term atheist to describe themselves. It's almost as if they see this as distasteful. I can recall Richard Dawkins describing a conversation between a mother and her daughter, who self identified as atheist.

"Atheist" the mother exclaimed. "I can accept you not believing in God, but an atheist never!"

Quentin Crisp had a good anecdote touching on this.

“When I told the people of Northern Ireland that I was an atheist, a woman in the audience stood up and said, 'Yes, but is it the God of the Catholics or the God of the Protestants in whom you don't believe?"

 

[Ron_Tomkins]

You have at least enough ******* rat's ass to post here.

Do you give a ******* rat's ass about the negative impacts theism has around the world?

How's that book/essay thing coming along?

Oh my, oh my, looks like somebody got up on the wrong side of the bed

 

[ynot]

You have at least enough ******* rat's ass to post here.

Do you give a ******* rat's ass about the negative impacts theism has around the world?

How's that book/essay thing coming along?

Oh my, oh my, looks like somebody got up on the wrong side of the bed

I have no idea how your response applies to my post. Care to explain?

 

[Thor 2]

I share your frustration ynot.

Not sure if Ron fits into the category, but there are some who post here, who go to great lengths to convey a feeling of warmth and empathy for the religious, and come out strongly in their defence when we attack religion, not the religious. This in spite of the overwhelming evidence we have, that religion is to blame for so much injustice.

 

[ynot]

I share your frustration ynot.

Not sure if Ron fits into the category, but there are some who post here, who go to great lengths to convey a feeling of warmth and empathy for the religious, and come out strongly in their defence when we attack religion, not the religious. This in spite of the overwhelming evidence we have, that religion is to blame for so much injustice.

I thought Ron somehow took my post as an attack on him. It makes more sense that he took it as an attack on religion. Thanks for the correction.

 

[8enotto]

I grew up in a home with a RCC mom and a fundamentalist dad. Both were quick to say the other was so wrong and then give weak reasons based on chosen beliefs.


I had to choose and logic dictated both were right as both were wrong. Neither could prove their faith as the best choice. I had no idea what was right but a grade school science teacher showed we can believe what we could prove and repeat. I chose that as my guide.

Both parents were unhappy with that.

I tend to try to respect the faith of others but have no need of anything church for myself. The exact definition of where I stand eludes me but it is not theist.