Is U.S. at war with Russia?

[SteveGrenard]

...and if not, how come this? It seems that Russia just might be justified in shooting down U.S. planes carrying Georgian soldiers back to their country from Iraq. I think we would if Pakistani planes were flying alQeda into Afghanistan or Iraq.

US begins flying Georgian troops home from Iraq

By KIM GAMEL – 38 minutes ago

BAGHDAD (AP) — The U.S. military began flying 2,000 Georgian troops home from Iraq on Sunday, military officials said, after the Georgians recalled the soldiers following the outbreak of fighting with Russia in the breakaway province of South Ossetia.

The decision was a timely payback for the former Soviet republic that has been a staunch U.S. supporter and agreed to send troops to Iraq as part of the U.S.-led coalition.
Georgia was the third-largest contributor of coalition forces after the U.S. and Britain, and most of its troops were stationed near the Iranian border in southeastern Iraq.

The U.S. military has played down concerns about the redeployment, saying it may have "some impact" in the near term but no significant long-term effect on Iraq's security.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i3OehGI9KkCKf8aXpxgzkF6ewA4AD92FHP7O0

Will Bush manage to get us embroiled in the big one six months before we are supposed to see the last of him?

 

[WildCat]

I really don't think the Russians will dare to shoot down a US military plane over Georgian territory.

 

[Alex Libman]

My dad worked for the Soviet military-industrial complex, so...

If a Russian nuke lands in your back yard...

Don't worry, it's not gonna explode...

The rust might ruin your grass though...

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[SteveGrenard]

I really don't think the Russians will dare to shoot down a US military plane over Georgian territory.

I just heard late news that, in response to this, the Russians have bombed the runways at Gegorgia's airfields. I agree, better the runways then the U.S. aircraft...

 

[ddt]

I really don't think the Russians will dare to shoot down a US military plane over Georgian territory.

Why would they bother to provoke the US in such a way? They're whipping the Georgians' ass anyway, so 2,000 Georgian soldiers more or less doesn't really matter.

Unless you're listening to Saakashvili. In his live interview with Wolf Blitzer earlier today, being asked about the performance of the Georgian army: "The Georgian troops are doing just fine. But the fighting needs to stop. People get killed! Ehhm, I mean, civilians get killed!"

 

[thesyntaxera]

I don't even have a clear grasp of what exactly is going on in this region, could anyone please unravel it for me? Is it just because South Ossetia wants to remain independent?

 

[Undesired Walrus]

More like Georgia wants SO to remain theirs.

 

[Cainkane1]

...and if not, how come this? It seems that Russia just might be justified in shooting down U.S. planes carrying Georgian soldiers back to their country from Iraq. I think we would if Pakistani planes were flying alQeda into Afghanistan or Iraq.



http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i3OehGI9KkCKf8aXpxgzkF6ewA4AD92FHP7O0

Will Bush manage to get us embroiled in the big one six months before we are supposed to see the last of him?

maybe we could fly them to another country and find another way of getting them in. Flying over Georgia with a few thousand soldiers hostile to Russia may be a big mistake.

 

[SteveGrenard]

I don't even have a clear grasp of what exactly is going on in this region, could anyone please unravel it for me? Is it just because South Ossetia wants to remain independent?

I shared your confusion over what is such a big deal until somebody mentioned to me there is an oil pipeline traversing South Ossetia (which I never heard of until this past week)

Suddenly it all became clear.

 

[Loss Leader]

Will Bush manage to get us embroiled in the big one six months before we are supposed to see the last of him?

We're already kind of embroiled in it. Georgia received its military training from the US as well as some of its equipment. It's shaping up to be as much of a proxy war as Afghanistan was.

 

[Jontg]

An interesting prediction--I wonder if we'll wind up getting commiephobia all over again. Imagine how the Junior Woo Scouts will react when they see what a borderline police state really looks like. XD

 

[six7s]

english.pravda.ru/topic/georgia_ossetia-603/
Feature stories
Georgia declares war on South Ossetia

Georgian troops burn South Ossetian refugees alive
08/10/2008 [article] / Hotspots and Incidents / Conflicts

Putin: Georgia’s actions are criminal, whereas Russia’s actions are absolutely legitimate
08/09/2008 [article] / Hotspots and Incidents / Conflicts


War between Russia and Georgia orchestrated from USA
08/09/2008 [article] / Hotspots and Incidents / Conflicts

Georgia's Saakashvili commits war crimes against humanity
08/08/2008 [news] / Hotspots and Incidents

Russian tanks enter South Ossetia to oust Georgian troops
08/08/2008 [article] / Hotspots and Incidents / Conflicts

Putin: Russia will strike Georgia back
08/08/2008 [article] / Hotspots and Incidents / Conflicts

Russia becomes officially involved in war against Georgia
08/08/2008 [article] / World / Former USSR

South Ossetia Ready to Explode?
08/06/2008 [article] / Russia / Politics

http://english.pravda.ru/topic/georgia_ossetia-603/

 

[WildCat]

english.pravda.ru/topic/georgia_ossetia-603/
Feature stories
Georgia declares war on South Ossetia

You don't actually think Pravda is a reliable news source, do you?

 

[six7s]

To be honest, I have no idea how (un)reliable they are...

However, I do think its interesting to see how the stories are being delivered to a significant number of people close to the action

 

[CFLarsen]

...and if not, how come this? It seems that Russia just might be justified in shooting down U.S. planes carrying Georgian soldiers back to their country from Iraq. I think we would if Pakistani planes were flying alQeda into Afghanistan or Iraq.



http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i3OehGI9KkCKf8aXpxgzkF6ewA4AD92FHP7O0

Will Bush manage to get us embroiled in the big one six months before we are supposed to see the last of him?

What "big one"?

 

[The_Fire]

What "big one"?

I think he means a world war between the west and the big,bad commies.

Never mind the fact that even Bush wouldn't be that stupid.....

 

[Alex Libman]

According to the 2008 Forbes tax misery index: In Russia, if I make a million Euros, I keep 870,000 - and that's with a lot of people to raise from poverty. In Denmark, if I make a million Euros, I keep 381,400.

NATO's yearly military expenditures: $850 billion. Russia's: $45 billion. As percent of GDP: Russia 4.58%, Georgia 15.90% (second only to North Korea, and actually much higher, since they're buying some stuff at deep discount and that data is a year old - it went up by like 30x over the past few years).


So.... Who are the commies again?

 

[The_Fire]

*Whosh*

Hear that? That was the meaning of my post going over your head.

 

[Alex Libman]

Yeah, sorry. I missed the tone of your post. Still relevant numbers though.

 

[KoihimeNakamura]

Not at all, but keep dreaming~