Is this sick or what?

Eos of the Eons said:
I don't believe gods. I don't hate them. How can you hate something that does not exist?
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Yes, people don't understand the definition of "atheist." If they understood it wouldn't be a big deal.
 
MLynn said:

Yes, people don't understand the definition of "atheist." If they understood it wouldn't be a big deal.
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Hmmm, so what can we do about that? Anybody able to visit churches for a living in order to deliver a little speach on what atheists actually are without being accused of having an agenda? All we want is understanding, not to convert everyone like they try to do. Quite they hypocrites they are. They fear the atheists are doing what they actually do.

It's not like atheism is a disease. You can't catch it. It's like trying to explain to them that gayness isn't a disease you can catch either.


Tolerance. Understanding. All I ask. We're not gonna convert your little children into worshipping a non-existant devil.
 
Unfortunately, fundies are not interested in dialog, just in demonizing thier opponents, so as to make their philosophy look more attractive.

Take Answers in Genesis for example:
1)
I was listening to the Christian radio station in my hometown today, and they had a quick blurb about how the Hubble Space Telescope was reported to be so fine-tuned, that it could see residual effects of the Big Bang.

To "balance" the story, they brought Ken Ham on for his opinion. He summed up the Hubble discoveries in about a 30 second diatribe, concluding that it was all a plot of the Atheists.
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2) Ah, just see the cartoon...

3) And this cartoon, among many others that jackwad Lietha draws.


4) Ham and Humanism

5) Ham again
The same story is told in AiG’s August 17, 2001 Answers With Ken Ham radio segment with the hysterical title “Evolutionists - after our children!” Since this essay was first put online, AiG put up another article with this story by Ken Ham and Carl Wieland called “A Whale of a Tale.” (AiG has two articles by that name.)
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Notice that they aim things towards children with the cartoons...what children and people in general, I guess, learn to fear, they will inevitably learn to hate.
 
I'm open with my atheism, and although my mom didn't like it at first, I've never had any problems with it.

(except on Christianity.com)

I have a lot of friends who are of many denominations, and when they first asked me, they seemed surprised that I was atheist, and then asked me why. When I told them, they said "sounds reasonable" and then it was left at that. A couple of my friends joke around with it sometimes, but it's all in good fun.

I think it's mostly the "older" christians, who are the intolerant ones towards atheists.
 
cloud_strife said:

I think it's mostly the "older" christians, who are the intolerant ones towards atheists.
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I would disagree with that, wednesday in french class I was sitting midning my own business while a girl who I am friendly with loudly explained how her friends were trying to set her up with a new boyfriend after a bad breakup. The first guy she said was just not attractive enough, and the second guy, well she found out that he was an atheist! And she told him, right to his face "I don't date people who are going straight to hell!". I don't think I'm going to be friendly with her anymore. It wasn't a pleasant way to start french class.
 
Christian parents and teachers need to begin early to educate their young children about the true history of the world, and teach them what the Bible has to say about dinosaurs.
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From the text near one of the cartoons. Forgive my ignorance, but what does the bible say about dinosaurs?

And it sure is great to see the tolerance displayed by those who are taught by their god to "love thy neighbor."
 
Eos of the Eons said:



Hmmm, so what can we do about that? Anybody able to visit churches for a living in order to deliver a little speach on what atheists actually are without being accused of having an agenda? All we want is understanding, not to convert everyone like they try to do. Quite they hypocrites they are. They fear the atheists are doing what they actually do.

It's not like atheism is a disease. You can't catch it. It's like trying to explain to them that gayness isn't a disease you can catch either.


Tolerance. Understanding. All I ask. We're not gonna convert your little children into worshipping a non-existant devil.
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I wish I knew the answer. What I'm doing is talking to christians I come across. I've started at my own church. If I didn't think I'd be banned from RR, I'd probably register and express my opinions.
 
DaveW said:


From the text near one of the cartoons. Forgive my ignorance, but what does the bible say about dinosaurs?

And it sure is great to see the tolerance displayed by those who are taught by their god to "love thy neighbor."
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Job Chapter 40:

Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.
40:16
Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly.
40:17
He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.
40:18
His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.
40:19
He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him.
40:20
Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play.
40:21
He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens.
40:22
The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about.
40:23
Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth.
40:24
He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares.
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The Fundies can't seem to figure out what creature this is, so they pretend that it's a dinosaur. The "tail moves like a cedar" line is their biggest "evidence".

Of course, there's nothing else in the bible, including the tale of Noah's ark, that comes close to mentioning a dinosaur.

My brother making this argument was the biggest catalyst in my burgeoning skepticism before I gave up believing. I kept saying to him, 'The bible mentions donkeys four hundred times but doesn't mention the largest, potentially most deadly animals to ever exist more than once?"

"And, lo, Moses and the tribes of Israel were lost in the desert for 40 years, driven by want, desperate from hunger and terrorized by constant velociraptor attacks."
 
Atheists considered a threat. Bizzar. I wonder what the rationale is behind such thinking. Are we considered the #1 cause of lightning bolts or something?
 
chrisberez said:
Atheists considered a threat. Bizzar. I wonder what the rationale is behind such thinking. Are we considered the #1 cause of lightning bolts or something?
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I think it's people living in fear and ignorance.

BTW chrisberez, welcome to the Forum!
 
MLynn said:

I wish I knew the answer. What I'm doing is talking to christians I come across. I've started at my own church. If I didn't think I'd be banned from RR, I'd probably register and express my opinions.
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What do you tell them? You aren't kicked out of your church group, so it must make sense. That in itself is impressive.

Curiously and admirably,

Eos
 
Eos of the Eons said:


What do you tell them? You aren't kicked out of your church group, so it must make sense. That in itself is impressive.

Curiously and admirably,

Eos
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Thanks, Eos - well, I've started to talk with people I have a good, solid relationship with. People I know who have a good heart and would listen to what I have to say. I tell them that in the past few years I've been meeting and befriending people who don't believe in any "god" and that these people have been thoughtlessly and severely treated by Christians and it's not right. I just say that I like 'em, I love 'em and it's time that Christians practice I Corintians 13 and love people the way they should; and that the word "atheist" is not a word to be afraid of. And that all sorts of non-believers are tired of being badgered and that they've already heard "the Gospel" 30 ways from Sunday, and that they are very intelligent and knowledgeable and know the Bible better than they do. And that like all people they just want to be liked and loved for themselves without any agendas attached.

That's basically it. I've only spoken with a few so far, but as any opportunity presents itself I will speak up.

Being the misfit that I am I don't care if I am "shunned" which hasn't happened so far. Sorry I was so long-winded...
 
Ipecac said:


Job Chapter 40:



The Fundies can't seem to figure out what creature this is, so they pretend that it's a dinosaur. The "tail moves like a cedar" line is their biggest "evidence".

Of course, there's nothing else in the bible, including the tale of Noah's ark, that comes close to mentioning a dinosaur.

My brother making this argument was the biggest catalyst in my burgeoning skepticism before I gave up believing. I kept saying to him, 'The bible mentions donkeys four hundred times but doesn't mention the largest, potentially most deadly animals to ever exist more than once?"

"And, lo, Moses and the tribes of Israel were lost in the desert for 40 years, driven by want, desperate from hunger and terrorized by constant velociraptor attacks."
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Wait a minute, I've seen translations that say "he had a penis like a great cedar."
 
cloud_strife said:
I have a lot of friends who are of many denominations, and when they first asked me, they seemed surprised that I was atheist, and then asked me why. When I told them, they said "sounds reasonable" and then it was left at that. A couple of my friends joke around with it sometimes, but it's all in good fun.
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I have a friend who always says to me, "Man, I never know what to say when you sneeze."
 
rachaella said:


You're so sexy. Thats what he should say.
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Now you're talkin'. Maybe we could start a trend to make that the socially acceptable thing to say to atheists when we sneeze.

Watch our ranks grow then.
 
Hi Chrisberez and DaveW! Welcome!

I think that fear is at the basis of why atheists are despised by some, Chrsiberez stated.

a. Some epople really follow thier faith because they are afraid, they do not want to feel that fear so, they don't like anything that reminds them of that fear.

b. atheists are a 'pink monkey', we are obviously very different from most people of faith.A lot of creatures react in a very stressful fashion when presented with a member of thier species that is marked differently. I confuse both athteists and beleivers, I keep a foot in each world.

c. There is a weird form of negative faith, especialy amongst people who feel they are oppressed. They get some wierd comfort from the fact (to them) that atheists and other evil doers will Burn in hell, while they will sit on a chair with a harp. They get through all the bad times of thier life taking comfort that those that oppress them will suffer. An atheist who says that is like the Easter Bunny just upsets thier greatest coping skill.

d. Most faithers can not face the fact that if most people are religous then most evil things are done by religous people! they don't want to believe that god or the church could be at all ever evil. Instead of looking at thier own inner evil they have to pretend that they don't have any. Soultion :Blame those that don't have faith or have a diiferent faith.

The large amount of preaching against atheism is the main reason.

PS Soon there will the new pick up line :Hey baby , did anyone ever tell you how sexy you look when you are sick?
 
VicDaring said:


I have a friend who always says to me, "Man, I never know what to say when you sneeze."
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Since I'm pretty good about covering my mouth, most of my friends have taken to saying "Nice catch!"
 
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