Is This Country Going Nuts?

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skeptical said:
Second case in point: Obama's going to give a speech to kids in school, focusing on how they need to take responsibility to learn as much as possible to be competitive in the global market place. The reaction from the Republican party: Obama wants to indoctrinate kids in socialism and the lesson plans are "greatly slanted toward activism" (Michelle Malakin). I read them, and there's nothing even remotely "activist" about them, they are nothing if not benign.
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Yesterday my wife received a phone call from her mother warning her about Obama's speech to our kids next week. Trying to address the assumptions from her through my wife was difficult.

Even more distressing was we had an orientation day at school where the kids get info on their kid's class (3rd grade in our instance). My wife overheard the teacher and a parent talking about the problems in America and the teaher said she has to get home to watch Glenn Beck and that she only watches Fox. This is my kid's teacher! Oh well this is Texas so I shoudl expect it and as long as it does not bleed into her class.
 
I would say the madness level is the same, but it is more vocal, more publicized, and at least from where I stand, more hurtful.

But that is just M.O.

TAM:)
 
gtc said:
Even if that is the case, even people who aren't conversant with genetics seem to think he is more black than white.
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This looks like a job for Bamp Bamp BAAAAAAA! Mixed Race Man!!!!!

Ok,first off, this is going to seem like the "Chewbacca Defense" Because it really does make little if any sense but like someone mentioned before it's the reality of race in America. Quite often, it goes way back to the "one drop rule" meaning that if you have one drop of "Black blood" you are in fact Black. (Note: I can't recall if anyplace, anywhere officially used this rule but it was used socially.) Now depending upon to whom you were dealing with, this was either a sign of one being tainted or welcomed.

That's me in my avatar (The one with the hair on his chinny chin chin) and I'm considered "Black" also "mixed" today. Years ago when I started grade school I was also considered "passing" (as in "He could pass for White").
Now as far back as I can remember I've always known that I was adopted and of mixed race (Black, White, American Indian) My mother (who is also light skinned enough to be considered "passing") had to lie and say she was White and get her uncle to pretend he was her father so the could adopt me because the agency felt only mixed race couples should adopt mixed race children. Once the process had been completed the only people who mentioned my being mixed were my parents, everyone else saw me as Black.



All in all it's simply a silly perception that people have to grow out of.

(I had written a lot more but there are so many nuances to this thing that it would take up several pages.)


ETA: As for the OP... Yep. Anytime sensible questions are drowned out by hysterics (now and for the past 8 years) I don't know what else to call it.
 
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Funny thing is Obama played up his Mom's Irish ancestary when he was running for the senate In Illinois...where a certain amount of Wearing of the Green is a absolute necessity for running for statewide office.
 
More news on the crazy front: a health care reform advocate bit the finger off a protester. Was he driven insane by Obama's election? I'll let Walter puzzle that one out.
 
No doubt both sides have there crazies but it seems that though out recent American history that right wing insanity is more wide spread and given more mainstream consideration. Take the Hitler charge as just one example it took less than 6 months for it to be a rather wide spread insult against Obama where it took a couple of years before it really was used by the left against Bush and it never seemed to be used as widely in the left as it has been the right. I don't recall any major elected Democrat using the language that several major Republicans have used against Obama and well Clinton for that matter. There have been several high ranking Republicans that have hinted at Birthism while I can't think of an elected Democrat that suggested troofism. And the Democrats that where kind of harsh against Bush at least until the second term where widely condemned in the media and by politicians of all stripes.
 
Walter Ego said:
Has the popular election of an African-American to the presidency driven this country over the edge? Birthers, deathers, the Obama is Hitler meme (it wasn't so long ago when George Bush was Hitler... ah, nostalgia!), Obama as the avatar of our robot overlords (aka the Glen Beck/Alex Jones convergence) or is this just a periodic outbreak of insanity from my neck of the woods?

Just asking... :(
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Why, yes, yes it is! But at least they are coming out of the woodwork and showing their true primitive racist selves to us.
 
People are leaving messages on the answering machine at our local high school imploring them to not let the President turn their kids into Communist homosexuals and threatening to take their kids to the local Christian School if they don't comply.

Ironically the Christian School will be broadcasting the speech.
 
TheJim said:
No doubt both sides have there crazies but it seems that though out recent American history that right wing insanity is more wide spread and given more mainstream consideration. Take the Hitler charge as just one example it took less than 6 months for it to be a rather wide spread insult against Obama where it took a couple of years before it really was used by the left against Bush and it never seemed to be used as widely in the left as it has been the right. I don't recall any major elected Democrat using the language that several major Republicans have used against Obama and well Clinton for that matter. There have been several high ranking Republicans that have hinted at Birthism while I can't think of an elected Democrat that suggested troofism. And the Democrats that where kind of harsh against Bush at least until the second term where widely condemned in the media and by politicians of all stripes.
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Cynthia McKinney is an example from the Democrat side, though she is now a Green.
 
gtc said:
Cynthia McKinney is an example from the Democrat side, though she is now a Green.
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Thank you for pointing McKinney out I knew there had to be at least a couple. That said she goes to my larger point, she was not leadership or well all that liked by members of her own party they quickly distanced themselves from her comments as they have done so in the past and she was a punchline in the larger media. Compare that with former whip of the Republicans Roy Blunt and the current number 4 Cathy McMorris Rodgers are but two rather high ranking officials that are pushing birthisim.
 
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