Is The Large Hadron Collider Being Sabotaged From The Future?

The_Fire said:
Wouldn't that be kind of redundant?
I mean: If the LHC is stopped/sabotaged by a future event caused by the LHC, which means that said future event wont happen, how can the LHC be stopped/sabotaged by a future event caused by the LHC.........
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Igor Novikov ftw!
 
I halfway think somebody is trying out a really lame Sci Fi Story Plot to see how it flies.......
 
If Isaac Asimov & EE Smith got together, would they be a pair o' docs?

Can a paradox be paradoctored? :D
 
Lensman said:
If Isaac Asimov & EE Smith got together, would they be a pair o' docs?

Can a paradox be paradoctored? :D
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I must have seen Ike and Doc Smith together at one time. All three of us were at TriCon (the 24th World Science-Fiction Convention) in1966.

In that time line Star Trek was in black and white for some reason. :confused:
 
This is evidence for the MW interpretation!

Observing the Higgs Boson is completely not allowed in the universe, so of course we will find ourselves in universes where all attempts to detect it fail. ;)
 
"otherwise distinguished" is the key here. I imagine this will result in them being considered a bit less distinguished in the future.

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Andrew Wiggin said:
"otherwise distinguished" is the key here. I imagine this will result in them being considered a bit less distinguished in the future.

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I'd see it more as meaning "distinguished when sober", and would assume that they were considered to be fully distinguished again by about the following lunchtime.

Dave
 
sol invictus said:
"Otherwise distinguished" is right. What nonsense.
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Indeed. It's no wonder string theory gets such a bad name when it's proponents come out with stuff like this.

The_Fire said:
Wouldn't that be kind of redundant?
I mean: If the LHC is stopped/sabotaged by a future event caused by the LHC, which means that said future event wont happen, how can the LHC be stopped/sabotaged by a future event caused by the LHC....
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Actually, no. The problem is that the news articles seem to have rather mangled what the actual letter (note that it's not a real paper) says. They don't claim that the LHC will go horribly wrong in the future, with the effects coming back in time to stop it happening. They say that the universe protects itself by preventing anything from happening in the first place. Their idea is that we could do an experiment to test this by randomly drawing cards. You decide in advance that if you pick a particular card, you won't run the LHC. If that card is drawn, this proves their theory since it would be unlikely to happen by chance and therefore must be due to the universe ensuring the card is picked in order to prevent the LHC.

Yes, I'm being serious. That really is what they actually say. And it wasn't published on April 1st. Incredible.
 
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sol invictus said:
I don't think it's a joke, it goes back at least to summer 2007. Meanwhile Nielsen at least has written quite a few other papers, most of which look reasonable.
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To be fair, he's also made a clear, unambiguous, and eminently falsifiable prediction. If the Higgs boson is observed, then his conjecture is conclusively refuted.

I wonder whether he's read Larry Niven's science fiction story, "Rotating Cylinders and the Possibility of Global Causality Violation," which postulates very much the same scenario. Maybe this belongs in the time travel thread.

Dave
 
Dave Rogers said:
To be fair, he's also made a clear, unambiguous, and eminently falsifiable prediction. If the Higgs boson is observed, then his conjecture is conclusively refuted.

I wonder whether he's read Larry Niven's science fiction story, "Rotating Cylinders and the Possibility of Global Causality Violation," which postulates very much the same scenario. Maybe this belongs in the time travel thread.

Dave
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Good story. One of many of Niven's stories that leave me feeling sorry for the poor sucker in the end, in this case, the minister calling from the dark side of the planet, who gets to see the sun go nova on the light side because he just happens to be on the phone with the guy who made the causality violating decision.

Just remember, folks. Causality violations make babee jeebus cry.

A.
 
I'll send $20 via PayPal to the first JREFer who names their child "Higgs Boson _surname_".

$50 already if your last name happens to be Boson.
 
Phrost said:
I'll send $20 via PayPal to the first JREFer who names their child "Higgs Boson _surname_".

$50 already if your last name happens to be Boson.
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Higgs Boson Wiggin just doesn't have the ring to it that 'Universe Destroyer Wiggin' has. I don't think I'll be taking you up on your kind offer.

Actually, I keep joking with my wife that we should name our first born "andrew christian wiggin II" or 'andy christ' for short. I don't think she's going for that.

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