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Is Separation Real? Is Objectivity Real?

I Robot said:
I mean... is there really separation in anything within your consciousness?
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What do you mean? Please use as many words to describe the concept as possible. Nobody has the faintest idea of how you're using the word "separation."
 
I Robot said:
Is separation real, or merely a story?
IR
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Hi InfraRed Robot,
sto·ry 2 (stôr′ē)
n. pl. sto·ries
1. A complete horizontal division of a building, constituting the area between two adjacent levels.

I'd say separation is real, unless it's a single floor building. :thumbsup:
 
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Darwin123 said:
The word 'separation' has dozens of meanings all of which are subtopics in the Skeptics Forum. The first thing that I thought of is the spatial separation between two observers in relativity.
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Yes, I'm talking about that. Can you demonstrate that there is even one limited observer?

Several posters have asked you to explain precisely what you mean be Separation. So apparently I am not the only one confused. However, you keep on repeating the word 'separation' without specifying it, making generalized statements that may refer to our inability to keep an open mind.
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OK, fair enough.

IR
 
I Robot said:
Yes, I'm talking about that. Can you demonstrate that there is even one limited observer?
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Donn said:
So, you mean like the space between words,
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No, I mean the space between "persons." Person, as in the concept of a limited psychological entity, an observer, an experiencer.

Darwin123 asked if I meant "spatial separation between two observers". I said, Can you demonstrate that even one observer actually exists?

IR
 
I Robot said:
No, I mean the space between "persons." Person, as in the concept of a limited psychological entity, an observer, an experiencer.

Darwin123 asked if I meant "spatial separation between two observers". I said, Can you demonstrate that even one observer actually exists?
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Then why did you agree to the one about space?

Are you a person?

More question marks. Here's one: ? Did you see it?

If it is not yet obvious, and your solipsism is not total, then you may have observed that no one has a cooking clue what you wish to speak about.

Obscurity is the droll of twit. Do clarify.
 
I Robot said:
No, I mean the space between "persons." Person, as in the concept of a limited psychological entity, an observer, an experiencer.

Darwin123 asked if I meant "spatial separation between two observers". I said, Can you demonstrate that even one observer actually exists?

IR
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If there were no separation between 'persons', would you really need to ask this question? Would there even be anyone to ask this question to?
The fact that you are communicating with us, that you do not know who we are or what we are going to reply, means that, even if there were an all-encompassing hive mind; a supreme consciousness of which we are all just infinitesimal facets, for all practical purposes person A and person B are not the same.
 
I Robot said:
No, I mean the space between "persons." Person, as in the concept of a limited psychological entity, an observer, an experiencer.
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I'm sorry, but this post is gibberish.

People are separated by definition. We are physically distinct, and experiences things separately.
 
Donn said:
Are you a person?
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Attaching to thought creates the sensation of there being a person doing the attaching, yes. When this is not happening then, no, I'm not a person.

If it is not yet obvious, and your solipsism is not total, then you may have observed that no one has a cooking clue what you wish to speak about.
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How do you know "no one has a clue?" Why try and reinforce an argument by making a statement of what you think others believe? To me this suggests you aren't too sure yourself!

Solipsism has nothing to do with it. I'm not talking about philosophical positions. I'm talking about hard, observable, demonstrable phenomena.

IR
 
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Doesn't different people having different memories (knowledge, experiences, etc.) demonstrate separation? If not, why not? What does separation mean, if not different memories?
 
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