Is Nagin determined to kill every last citizen?

[Jocko]

Well, when you look at the news today, it sure looks like it. Nagin is cavalier in his disregard for warnings from the feds, including FEMA and the office of the president himself, to hold off on re-opening New Orleans.

Nagin announced the plan to repopulate New Orleans on Thursday, offering the optimistic prediction that about 180,000 residents -- about a third of the city's population -- could return by the end of this week.

This in spite of the lack of any reliable potable water source, and of course, the very real possibility that Hurricane Rita could very well be knocking on New Orleans' door in a matter of days.

Let's hope the citizens of New Orleans have more brains than their honorable mayor.

 

[mr rosewater]

YES.

 

[Grammatron]

NO.

 

[Metullus]

One can always hope. But then, the elected him. On purpose.

 

[Jocko]

One can always hope. But then, the elected him. On purpose.

Marion Berry (sp?) never looked so good. can't control the weather, but damn it, we should be able to rein in the stupidity a little.

 

[corplinx]

Despite the fact that there is no potable drinking water he calls people back in. It boggles the mind, how many people suffering from dehydration or gastro-intestinal problems will have to be re-evacuated?

 

[Jocko]

Despite the fact that there is no potable drinking water he calls people back in. It boggles the mind, how many people suffering from dehydration or gastro-intestinal problems will have to be re-evacuated?

I guess not preparing for a disaster isn't enough for Nagin anymore; no, he's got to precipitate one and THEN not respond to it.

Not to be a heartless bastard - though I am precisely that - but at what point should we start cutting these idiots off? Maybe have them send their next evacuation bill to Nagin?

And where the hell is Governor Blanco? I would think she had enough sense to put a muzzle on him.

 

[Nyarlathotep]

I don't get it either. I understand wanting to ge the city back up and running as soon as possible but it seems VERY premature to me. I have to wonder if part of the problem is that people are getting too overeager to move back and the politicians over there don't have the stones to say no to them.

Over the weekend I was watching CNN and they were talking to some people who were preapring to come back. One lady they talked to ran a toy store in a part of the city that was still dry. She was going to re-open her shop but she said that she had been falsely led to beleive that power had been restored to her part of the city, not to mention no water. So she was planning to hire someone to run the store while she went back to where she had been staying. It seems tome she'd be better off just closing down until there WAS power and water again. After all, how many people are going to be wanting to buy toys in the midst of a crisis like that anyway?

 

[Metullus]

Nagin has a couple of political problems:

1. New Orleans is bankrupt.
2. No constituency.

What use is a Mayor without a bank account and without constituents?

 

[shemp]

Bush vs. Nagin, the Clash of the Idiots. I gotta admit, Nagin may actually be the bigger idiot.

 

[Nyarlathotep]

Bush vs. Nagin, the Clash of the Idiots. I gotta admit, Nagin may actually be the bigger idiot.

That's a pretty harsh thing to say about Nagin, coming from you.

Sadly, I have to agree with you though.

 

[geni]

I guess not preparing for a disaster isn't enough for Nagin anymore; no, he's got to precipitate one and THEN not respond to it.

Not to be a heartless bastard - though I am precisely that - but at what point should we start cutting these idiots off?

Didn't you lot fight a civil war because people wanted to be cut off?

One issue may be that people are running out of money to stay elsewhere.

 

[Jocko]

Didn't you lot fight a civil war because people wanted to be cut off?

No, we fought a civil war because 13 states seceded and fired on Ft. Sumter. Durr.

One issue may be that people are running out of money to stay elsewhere.

Yeah, it may be, but no one has presented that as a theory, particularly the boneheads who are driving this potentially suicidal publicity stunt (Nagin, and by her silence, Blanco). Who says the shelters are out of money? The refugees aren't all staying at four-star resorts, you know. They're not actually paying for their primitive accommodations.

 

[geni]

No, we fought a civil war because 13 state seceded and fired on Ft. Sumter. Durr.

Thirteen; one what's the difference?



Yeah, it may be, but no one has presented that as a theory, particularly the boneheads who are driving this potentially suicidal publicity stunt (Nagin, and by her silence, Blanco). Who says the shelters are out of money? The refugees aren't all staying at four-star resorts, you know. They're not actually paying for their primitive accommodations. [/QUOTE]

I wasn't thinking so much about the shelters but the people who are living with relertives and the like.

 

[Manny]

One issue may be that people are running out of money to stay elsewhere.

That would be impressive. That $200 B reconstruction proposal the President has out and which Congress is all but certain to approve? That comes out to $400,000 for each of the 500,000 so families which were relocated.

Think about that. We could cut the cost in half if we just gave a check for $200,000 to each family and told them to spend it as they chose. Some would supplement it with insurance money and rebuild. Maybe some of the public-housing-no-cars-lost-everything-had-nothing-to-begin-with people would take $200,000 and chose to build themselves a new life somewhere else instead of having the government build them a new crime-ridden craphole below the water line, only this time on stilts.

We're repeating the 9-11 mistakes and just handing out money indiscriminently. Do you know people were trying to give me aid for months and months after 9-11? I think I'm still eligible for a rebate on that HEPA filter I bought. And not to put too fine a point on it, but DAMMIT, I MAKE A LOT OF MONEY AND I DON'T NEED THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO SUBSIDIZE MY HEPA FILTER!!!!!

Bah, this is all a propos of nothing. Nagin is still an idiot. I just had to vent a little is all.

 

[Jocko]

Thirteen; one what's the difference?

Being left alone, being belligerent... what's the difference?

I wasn't thinking so much about the shelters but the people who are living with relertives and the like.

Well, if that's any kind of issue, no one has said anything about it, and as Manny pointed out there's no shortage of dollars or methods of delivery.

 

[geni]

Think about that. We could cut the cost in half if we just gave a check for $200,000 to each family and told them to spend it as they chose. Some would supplement it with insurance money and rebuild. Maybe some of the public-housing-no-cars-lost-everything-had-nothing-to-begin-with people would take $200,000 and chose to build themselves a new life somewhere else instead of having the government build them a new crime-ridden craphole below the water line, only this time on stilts.

Ok for some reason I'm haveing a hard time finding a problem with this.

 

[geni]

Well, if that's any kind of issue, no one has said anything about it, and as Manny pointed out there's no shortage of dollars or methods of delivery. [/B]

If I recall correctly the higher parts of the city were the richer parts.

 

[Manny]

Ok for some reason I'm haveing a hard time finding a problem with this.

Exactly.

But no. We'll spend a billion bucks to build a ghetto on stilts, and another half billion to compensate Cargill because the mouth of the Mississippi was closed for a week and a couple hundred million so that Northrop Grumman can repaint the Avondale Shipyard...

In fairness, some of the money will be spent in ways that can't be handed out. I-10 has to get rebuilt, and no one's gonna chip in $500 of their $200,000 to put up the Biloxi causeway. But I tell ya', we're gonna waste a ton of money here. Just like 9-11 money went to golf course developers in Georgia.

Grrr! When is a conservative going to be president?

 

[zenith-nadir]

New Orleans Suspends Reopening of City - Sept 19, 2005

NEW ORLEANS - Under pressure from President Bush and other top federal officials, the mayor Monday suspended the reopening of large portions of the city over the next few days because of the threat of a new round of flooding from a tropical storm.

"I would rather err on the side of conservatism so we would make sure we have everyone out," Mayor Ray Nagin said.