Is Mitt Romney getting nervous?

RandFan said:
Exactly. Hence the problem. Just like the KKK hasn't realized that racial animus is no longer a winning issue those voters don't realize that society is progressing beyond them. Most people want and use contraception. The trend toward tolerance of gays and lesbians is moving in a singular direction. The notion that the sanctity of life is more about a mass of cells than a living, thinking breathing human being is growing. The voters you talk about are incapable of simply looking at the culture around them and figuring out that they lost. The culture war is over. Hell, it was over two decades ago.
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Four. The last forty years conservative ideology has just been a reaction to the rapid social change of the Sixties and the technology-driven upheavals that followed. Hell, it's even in the name- they are trying to "conserve" a world, their world, that simply does not exist anymore.

It's why the entrenched PTB are trying to wrangle control over the internet now "by any means necessary".
 
Piscivore said:
Four. The last forty years conservative ideology has just been a reaction to the rapid social change of the Sixties and the technology-driven upheavals that followed. Hell, it's even in the name- they are trying to "conserve" a world, their world, that simply does not exist anymore.
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"People should know when they are conquered." --Quintus; Gladiator
 
Tricky said:
The GOP had better hope Santorum doesn't win the nomination. They might wind up losing both houses as well as the presidency. He can't even win his state. He is a joke to most of the nation. If the nominating process panders to party extremists, the the party is dead meat in the general election. It happened with McGovern. That is a lesson that neither party should forget.
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It's pretty clear my predictions this cycle have been poor, but this has been one crazy primary season. If I were to make a guess I'd say that Romney's strength, the economy, isn't working as well with the nation on an upturn, so the base is falling back to their "moral" platform with Santorum.

I also fear that no matter the candidate the race will be close with so much of the country bitterly partisan that the R and D are the only things they are actually voting for.
 
elbe said:
It's pretty clear my predictions this cycle have been poor, but this has been one crazy primary season. If I were to make a guess I'd say that Romney's strength, the economy, isn't working as well with the nation on an upturn, so the base is falling back to their "moral" platform with Santorum.

I also fear that no matter the candidate the race will be close with so much of the country bitterly partisan that the R and D are the only things they are actually voting for.
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If it's Santorum I really don't think it will be close. Too many independents and moderates won't care for his extremism. JMO.
 
BenBurch said:
Serious question; Did it EVER exist?
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Some parts. There was a time when public school started each day with a Christian prayer. There was a time when there was no Medicare or Social Security. There was a time when women and minorities were not allowed to vote. There was a time when there were not so many Hispanics in our society. There was a time when you could hit or even beat your own children without fear of repercussion.

Other parts are pure fantasy. There has always been teenage pregnancy (though it used to be hushed up.) There has never been a time when all kids got a good education in our public schools. There has never been a time when all the young men cheerfully went off to war. There has never been a time where there weren't homosexuals. (Again. Hushed up.) There has never been a time when everybody had enough to eat.

For some Conservatives, the past is a jumble of Norman Rockwell paintings.
 
BenBurch said:
In am told that there are some stories being held in abeyance until he is the clear nominee, if that happens, which will pretty much sink Santorum's entire career. We'll see if that rumor pans out.
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You are told?

It bugs me that journalists would be sitting on information, thinking heh-heh-heh just wait, if those suckers nominate Santorum, we'll show 'em! Why waste all that dirt on a mere senator - let's wait till he's the GOP nominee.

And if he's not? The stories never get told?
 
Puppycow said:
It appears that Romney now has his own "Google problem". You can google it. :)
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Oh, I romney every day. My kitten cries at the door when I'm in the bathroom until I let him in. I don't know if I'm more terrified that he may be gay, or that he's looking for something new to use as a cat toy.
 
Tricky said:
... There has always been teenage pregnancy (though it used to be hushed up.) ...
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Let me tell you a story;

I went to Catholic School for most of my upbringing. There was a girl who was in my class for a few months in the 5th grade and then not when classes resumed the next year, and I thought no more of it.

One day, when I was in high school, I was filling coolers in our tavern, and she comes in with the grandparents she lived with, and I started to talk to her and we wandered outside to talk not around parents. And she told me that she was pregnant and was being sent away to have the baby. This shocked me, and I asked my mother about that and she said that it was, or used to be, very common to send unwed pregnant teenage girls to relatives in the country or to homes for such girls to avoid the embarrassment to the family.

I wonder to this day what happened to her, but yes, it used to be hushed up big time.
 
Minoosh said:
You are told?

It bugs me that journalists would be sitting on information, thinking heh-heh-heh just wait, if those suckers nominate Santorum, we'll show 'em! Why waste all that dirt on a mere senator - let's wait till he's the GOP nominee.

And if he's not? The stories never get told?
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Maybe, maybe not. Ultimately a reporter needs to look at the impact the story will have. If Santorum is NOT about to be the GOP nominee, the story might not be ethical to reveal. Some stories can have cruel effects on people they are not about, for example.
 
RandFan said:
If it's Santorum I really don't think it will be close. Too many independents and moderates won't care for his extremism. JMO.
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Yeah, but at least he's somewhat likeable. Unlike robo Mitt who's doing his best to destroy even the small shreds of popularity he once had.
Tricky said:
There has always been teenage pregnancy (though it used to be hushed up.)
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Teenage pregnancy rates in the US are a lot lower than they used to be by the way.

O tempera o mores.
 
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BenBurch said:
Maybe, maybe not. Ultimately a reporter needs to look at the impact the story will have. If Santorum is NOT about to be the GOP nominee, the story might not be ethical to reveal. Some stories can have cruel effects on people they are not about, for example.
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That sounds like a convenient rationalization. He's a U.S. senator. If the truth about him hurts someone, oh well. He shouldn't have done it. Whatever it was. Don't shoot the messenger, and all.

It's "a story" if he's the nominee, but only then. I can kind of see it, except, where then is the line that says, Oh, senators can do behavior X, no big deal. But if a presidential nominee does it, that's news.

In fact Santorum probably has more influence as a senator than he would as a nominee. There's no reason it would be more ethical to release the info a few months from now. But it would help a media outlet manufacture some pious agony about the moral issues involved, and what a tough decision it was to run the story, etc.

I'm a journalist, I'd rather we didn't play these games.
 
The most recent numbers I've read indicate that teen pregnancy rates in the US are at their lowest levels in 40 years, while teen birth rates are at their lowest rates ever.
 
Ray Brady said:
The most recent numbers I've read indicate that teen pregnancy rates in the US are at their lowest levels in 40 years, while teen birth rates are at their lowest rates ever.
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Teen pregnancy makes a certain amount of sense IMO.

But, to bring the issue back to Romney: Why do Mormon women stop having babies at 35?

Isn't that enough?
 
Ray Brady said:
The most recent numbers I've read indicate that teen pregnancy rates in the US are at their lowest levels in 40 years, while teen birth rates are at their lowest rates ever.
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That's because of that evil abortion and birth control. Get this country back to the good old days when sex meant babies. We'll get that teenage pregnancy rate back up to where it ought to be.

Oh, wait...
 
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