Is Magic OK For Christians?

Radrook
Ever wonder WHY GOD takes such a dim view of attempts at magic? There are good reasons.
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How would the likes of Sylvia Brown, John Edwards, etc be classified i.e. would they be considered to be performing magical acts?
 
Blue Monk said:
Boy, this is a dumb thread so naturally I have to throw in my two cents.

There’s no such thing as magic.

Problem solved.

That is unless you mean to imply that God really hates parlor tricks.
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Uhmm.. no such thing as gods either. Problem solved twice.
 
thaiboxerken said:
Uhmm.. no such thing as gods either. Problem solved twice.
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Hehe.

So the question is, "Does an imaginary being hate an imaginary power?"

Well, that certainly is food for thought indeed.
 
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Piscivore said:
Amish.
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You may be right but I think you are mistaken. I thought the Amish reluctance to adapt technology had more to do with the social implications.
 
It is wrong to say the bible does not support magic.

from acts
1:9
And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, Jesus spread his arms and rose from the ground.

1:10
And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two scantily dressed women stood by next to him in white apparel holding a woven screen.

1:11
As he floated there They said, Ye men of Galilee, this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

1:12
They two assistants carried forth the raised screen to obscure Jesus. Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey.

1:13
And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where abode both Peter, and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon Zelotes, and Judas the brother of James.

1:14
These all continued with one accord that they all agreed the balducci levitation had never been better performed
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OK question I remember way back maybe 70ish the the Magicians union or whatever they are called officially announced that they are removing themselves from the "black arts" or witchcraft or ? and that they were just entertainers.

I did think that did make sense as David Blaine, John Edwards, Ole Sylvia, Penn and Teller all there stuff is simply tricks it is not actual magic.

Does anybody remember this announcement or whatever it was called?

I remember when David Blaine was doing his stuff and everybody was ooooo hes got the devils powers, nah hes just a really good showman that has ;) nothing up his sleeve.

But Radrook is expressing the difference between a christian and a for instance wicca view. Perhaps one day there will be actual events that are not staged. But I expect and hope JREF will be right in there to determine if its "real" and if true then they will be out that million.

Battle of the ages stuff :D
 
thaiboxerken said:

LOL. This is silly. It's like a discussion on the proper use of the Force.. what exactly is Dark usage vs. Light usage.
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Depends on what you intend to get out of it, and which side of yourself you appeal to.
 
Blue Monk said:
Boy, this is a dumb thread so naturally I have to throw in my two cents.

There’s no such thing as magic.

Problem solved.

That is unless you mean to imply that God really hates parlor tricks.
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What about "Magic" as in the card game?

Can Xians play that?
 
Blue Monk said:

Hehe.

So the question is, "Does an imaginary being hate an imaginary power?"

Well, that certainly is food for thought indeed.
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Well imagine that. ;)
 
Brahe
One more related question, Radrook: what do you think of the efficacy of magic? When I've asked this question of Christians before, few of them believe that it works (and thus do not believe god has much view at all on the subject). Those that do are unwilling and unable to produce evidence supporting this claim, and fall back on, "if magic didn't work, then why would god oppose it?" So what's your position on the issue?
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Yeah. What Brahe said.
 
Since when does Rad actually answer questions that are challenging to his silly beliefs?
 
Sorry but prayers in an attempt to change me from an atheist to a believer is still mind control magic.

And what you are saying is that all Wiccans are murderers, is that right?


Radrook said:
The biblical answer is a resounding NO!



Acts 19
19And many of those who had practiced curious, magical arts collected their books and [throwing them, [1] book after book, on the pile] burned them in the sight of everybody. When they counted the value of them, they found it amounted to 50,000 pieces of silver ([2] about $9,300).

AMP


In the inspired book of Revelation Saint John tells us that the practice of magic is grouped right along with murder sexual immorality, cowardice, idolatry, lying and theft.

Revelation 9:21
Nor did they repent of their murders, their magic arts, their sexual immorality or their thefts.



Revelation 21:8
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars–their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."



Revelation 22:15
Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.


NIV


Ever wonder WHY GOD takes such a dim view of attempts at magic? There are good reasons.
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IS magic OK for Christians?

Well, I never thought it was magic, but I guess OK could be for Christians. VA is still for lovers, though.
 
thaiboxerken said:
Is using the Force OK for christians?
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What if they are Christian Libertarians? Would initiation of The Force be right out?
 
I've known some Xtians that think stage magic (think Randi) is the work of the devil.


Virgil
 
thaiboxerken said:
Is using the Force OK for christians?
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No. The Force is Satanic, as exposed here
The relevant passage from that link:

All occultists, including Freemasons, Illuminists, and Satanists, teach that God is not a person, or a being; rather, he is a "Force". The movie which did most to popularize this Satanic concept is the movie, "Star Wars", where Black Magic duel White Magic, both of whom were using the "Force" to try to win the war. The phrase, "May the Force Be With You" was on everyone's lips after that movie. This is classic witchcraft, and yet, most Americans are not aware.
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