Is Harry Potter Wiccan?

Silicon said:
You forget the Disney films which have subliminal messages, like the word "sex" written in clouds of dust.
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I looked for that, but chalked it up to pareidolia.

The real fun is an audio passage in Aladdin. The balcony scene, when Jasmine is in a huff talking to somebody (I forget who) in the foreground, while Aladdin is fending off the tiger with his turban in the background. The main dialogue between Jasmine and whoever doesn't completely cover up the fainter background speech of Aladdin, who's saying things like "Nice tiger, get down boy" which leads into him saying, quite clearly, "good...teenagers take off their clothes." I kid you not. It's very well done; the "camera" is completely on Jasmine at the time, leaving Aladdin's voice coming in from outside as mere background noise. Focus is on the girl's talking, so you really don't notice unless you're looking for it.

I didn't believe it til someone showed me in college. We rewound it over and over for the whole dorm. I think it was my answering machine message for a while! It was still on the first batch of VHS copies sold, but they might have removed it by now from the DVD release.

I've never heard of public outcry at this one.
 
There was outrage about this. The American Life League took it and ran with it during their Disney boycott of the 90's.

It's "selective hearing." He's saying "Good kitty. Take off." The mistaken "subliminal phrase" is just people hearing "Turn me on, Dead man" from what is just a sloppy dialogue edit, pieced together from a couple of different "takes" of the voice actor.


http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/aladdin.htm



Allow me to pm you and I will tell you why you should trust me on this one.
 
Silicon said:
There was outrage about this. The American Life League took it and ran with it during their Disney boycott of the 90's.

It's "selective hearing." He's saying "Good kitty. Take off." The mistaken "subliminal phrase" is just people hearing "Turn me on, Dead man" from what is just a sloppy dialogue edit, pieced together from a couple of different "takes" of the voice actor.


http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/aladdin.htm



Allow me to pm you and I will tell you why you should trust me on this one.
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How disappointing! I can attest that it really does sound like "Good teenagers take off their clothes". Perhaps if my friend hadn't told me what the line was supposed to be, I wouldn't have heard it.

And I'm not ashamed of being taken in, because it was awfully funny.

You can PM me if you want, I've never gotten one before! Not sure if I've got it turned on...?
 
Not turned on. You have to set it in your user cp under "edit options".


I'll venture that's one of the reasons you haven't gotten a pm!

;)
 
- Also, the "sex" thing in the cloud of dust after Simba plops down is quite real... pause it and replay it with a good DVD and it's unmistakable. The animators had a nice laugh I imagine.

- There was also the thing about Little Mermaid and one of the columns in the back ground of the VHS graphic. Apparently one was shaped exactly like a penis. Never got around to investigating that one.
 
AtheistArchon said:
- Also, the "sex" thing in the cloud of dust after Simba plops down is quite real... pause it and replay it with a good DVD and it's unmistakable. The animators had a nice laugh I imagine.
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Actually the letters are S.F.X.

It's unmistakable.

It's also the shorthand of the department that did the dust animation. Special FX.


Trust me on this.
 
Re: Re: Re: Is Harry Potter Wiccan?

TragicMonkey said:
I forget the term for it, but they're written from what looks like a third person point of view, but mostly from Harry's mental perspective.
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Main protaganist?
 
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TragicMonkey said:

In any event, his religion, if any, isn't very important to him, otherwise he would surely think something religious during at least one passage in four thick books.
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5.


Unless you are saying there are only 4 "thick" ones.

In which case I'd disagree. Only 2 are really thick.
 
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Stop being a bunch of sillies.

The Harry Potter series is an example of that 20th century English standby, the school story. But with a funny twist.

The notion that it is anything else is nonsense.

When I said that Harry Potter is a Christian, I did not mean to imply that the stories are explicitly propaganda for the Christian religion, no more so than conventional school stories.
 
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Abdul Alhazred said:
When I said that Harry Potter is a Christian, I did not mean to imply that the stories are explicitly propaganda for the Christian religion, no more so than conventional school stories.
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But what evidence have you that he's Christian, even nominally, as part of a fictional character's background? Or are you just assuming that Europeans are Christian by default, if no other religious background is mentioned?
 
Dancing David said:
Harry Potter is a Wiccan, does he worship the Goddess and dance naked?
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Let's hope not!

Although another year or two of percolation and Hermione can go for it! I'm thinking HP IV, let 'er rip!


Since when did anyone who can do magic become a witch?
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I voted "no" to Wicca. Wicca, like all real-world religious theories, has no basis in fact and not one iota of reproduceable evidence. Whereas Harry Potter's magic, in his world, is a demonstrable scientific fact.
 
Perhaps there is no religion at Hogwarts, it must be a MUggle thing.


BTW there are lots of very attractive wirches out there , they are not all ugly, fat and idivorced. They are by and large suffering from some sort of mental illness!
 
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TragicMonkey said:
What evidence is there that Harry's not an atheist? ...
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Being English, he is a nominal Christian by default unless declared otherwise.

The Christmas stuff eliminates the "declared otherwise".

So yeah, maybe Harry is an atheist, but if so he's a Christian atheist.

I never said he is a Bible-thumping foot-washing Baptist.

Nor is he an atheist in the activist sense.
 
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