Is Bigfoot a conspiracy theory?

Gawdzilla said:
Simple math: Bigfoot sightings/improved personal cameras = death of a myth.
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Right. Before the age of iPhones and 8000 megapixel high-speed cameras, there was some wiggle-room for UFOs, ghosts, bigfeet, and so on. Now, there is none of that. If these things existed, we would have caught them on camera by now.
 
Belz... said:
Right. Before the age of iPhones and 8000 megapixel high-speed cameras, there was some wiggle-room for UFOs, ghosts, bigfeet, and so on. Now, there is none of that. If these things existed, we would have caught them on camera by now.
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I love watching them plant game trail cameras and then trying to pretend there's a suggestion of a hint of a possible impression of a hit when they go over them the next day. :rolleyes:
 
Belz... said:
Right. Before the age of iPhones and 8000 megapixel high-speed cameras, there was some wiggle-room for UFOs, ghosts, bigfeet, and so on. Now, there is none of that. If these things existed, we would have caught them on camera by now.
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Footie knows what game cams are, and where they are, every single one of them. Plus, he can infra-zap you if you attempt a photo. Other stuff too.
 
JohnG said:
I think it's pretty well accepted that the Patterson-Gimlin Film (PGF) was an inside job (IJ) filmed in a soundstage on the moon by notorious jew director (NJD) Stanley Kubrick* using one of the ape costumes from 2001: A Space Odyssey**.
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I thought it was Francis Ford Coppola, who bought modified suits from Kubrik's costume supplier.

Kubrik was too busy preparing to stage the moon landing.
 
elkabong51 said:
Everything he said is true. Except the bit about Paul McCartney. That seems a little far-fetched.
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Bah, I tell you McCartney was replaced by a four-armed shapeshifting alien from another dimension on the sixth of November 1966 as part of their plan to use pop music to start WW3 in 1970.
 
Wowbagger said:
I thought it was Francis Ford Coppola, who bought modified suits from Kubrik's costume supplier.

Kubrik was too busy preparing to stage the moon landing.
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Kubrick filmed both hoaxes back to back on the same lunar soundstage...well, stage, anyway. He had to make the Bigfoot film on the moon to get that otherworldly "Bigfoot gait" correct.

He filmed the moon hoax on the actual moon because as everyone knows he's a stickler for detail.
 
Mudcat said:
There are a lot of differences between Bigfoot beliefs and conspiracy theorisms, though.
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I did a little research since the quoted post and take it back, there really isn't that many differences after all. Go into any thread at random in the general discussions at Bigfoot forums (or BFF, for short) and it won't take long until someone starts saying how no discovery of Bigfoot will never happen because there's a concerted effort to keep that from happening.

Apparently there's a conspiracy to cover up the existence of Bigfoot at every level of the government, and every monied interest are in on it. The mainstream media won't cover it, except for when they do and scientists can't be trusted, unless they believe in Bigfoot in which case they can be.

And what is the point of such a massive conspiracy, you may well ask yourself? To maintain the status quo. Wait, what? :boggled:
 
And the Smithsonian, the Smithsonian . . . covering up archeological evidence of Egyptian culture and language in the Grand Canyon.
 
And Scientists are Blacklisting Bigfoot Scientists, so they won't study the Bigfoot.
 
Drewbot said:
How do I get one of those pensions??

Another famous Bigfoot conspiracy is that dozens of Bigfoots were killed in the Mt St. Helens eruption, and several witnesses saw a government triage unit in place to deal with the BF casualties.
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Maybe Mt. St. Helens was what made the bigfoots move from the pacific northwest to Oklahoma, Ohio and Florida. They wanted a more geologically stable habitat.
 
Scott Sommers said:
I've spent most of my time here posting on the 9/11 forum, but I'd like to know from the Bigfoots, is this a conspiracy theory in the same way as 9/11 or Holocaust denial?
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Back when I was approaching Skepticism from an analytical perspective, I found it easier to categorize 'claims' rather than attempting to categorize 'things'. I toyed with a claim hierarchy/template and found that ultimately there were really only about 20 claims that Skepticism addresses.

Unfortunately, the BCSkeptics website was not renewed by the new directors after my departure, so I have to find another way to convey this to the thread.

What I mean is that I would ask "what's the claim here?" as a starting point.

Bigfoot is a good example of why that's important:
  • there are very traditional cryptozoology claimants who are relying strictly on "they're rare and skittish undocumented species" which is a wholly naturalistic claim.
  • there are other claimants that say bigfoot is evasive because he can dimension shift ("psychic bigfoot") - this is naturalistic category pseudoscience or supernatural category paranormal, depending on the explanation
  • there are those who further claim that there has been suppression of evidence for some reason - these claims would be the same category of any other conspiracy, which is under the 3rd major category of claims about people
 
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blutoski said:
Back when I was approaching Skepticism from an analytical perspective, I found it easier to categorize 'claims' rather than attempting to categorize 'things'. I toyed with a claim hierarchy/template and found that ultimately there were really only about 20 claims that Skepticism addresses.

Unfortunately, the BCSkeptics website was not renewed by the new directors after my departure, so I have to find another way to convey this to the thread.

What I mean is that I would ask "what's the claim here?" as a starting point.

Bigfoot is a good example of why that's important:
  • there are very traditional cryptozoology claimants who are relying strictly on "they're rare and skittish undocumented species" which is a wholly naturalistic claim.
  • there are other claimants that say bigfoot is evasive because he can dimension shift ("psychic bigfoot") - this is naturalistic category pseudoscience or supernatural category paranormal, depending on the explanation
  • there are those who further claim that there has been suppression of evidence for some reason - these claims would be the same category of any other conspiracy, which is under the 3rd major category of claims about people
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I found a backup copy. Let's see if it can paste HTML into the forum:

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blutoski said:
I found a backup copy. Let's see if it can paste HTML into the forum:
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So, no, then.

I'll try a different way. Nested lists:

  • 1 Supernatural
    • 1.1 Immortality
      • 1.1.1 soul of dead goes elsewhere
      • 1.1.2 soul of dead goes into another body
      • 1.1.3 soul of dead hangs around
      • 1.1.4 soul of living can leave body
      • 1.1.5 soul of dead merges with others
    • 1.2 Purpose
      • 1.2.1 creator
      • 1.2.2 guidance
    • 1.3 Control
      • 1.3.1 blessings and curses
      • 1.3.2 reward and punishment
  • 2 Pseudoscience
    • 2.1 scientific errors
    • 2.2 extraterrestrial life
    • 2.3 unclassified terrestrial life
    • 2.4 pseudophysics
      • 2.4.1 free energy
      • 2.4.2 undetectable energy or forces
      • 2.4.3 novel, overly complicated model
    • 2.5 powers
      • 2.5.1 psychokenesis
      • 2.5.2 telepathy
      • 2.5.3 clairvoyance
      • 2.5.4 psychometry
      • 2.5.5 precognition
    • 2.6 health
      • 2.6.1 questionable diagnoses
      • 2.6.2 questionable treatments
      • 2.6.3 natural is healthy
    • 2.7 pseudopsychology
      • 2.7.1 suppressed memory
      • 2.7.2 questionable mind reading techniques
      • 2.7.3 questionable personality categorization/techniques
    • 2.8 nature/nurture extremism
  • 3 Pseudohumanities
    • 3.1 world domination conspiracies
    • 3.2 cover-up conspiracies
    • 3.3 urban legends
    • 3.4 historical revisionism
 
Scott Sommers said:
I've spent most of my time here posting on the 9/11 forum, but I'd like to know from the Bigfoots, is this a conspiracy theory in the same way as 9/11 or Holocaust denial?
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Wait.

Are you saying the Towers were demolitioned by Bigfoot to cover up the fact that six million Jews faked the lunar landings? :eye-poppi



Suddenly, it is all starting to make sense...
 
G6000 said:
Wait.

Are you saying the Towers were demolitioned by Bigfoot to cover up the fact that six million Jews faked the lunar landings? :eye-poppi



Suddenly, it is all starting to make sense...
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Well, the towers did fall straight into their big footprints:duck:
 
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