Is Biden retarded???

[TheDeeMan]

Nope. They turn a blind eye.

And Fox and friends are so in the tank for McLame it isn't even funny. For instance, the Dow at this moment 10.57am EST is down about 300 points and they're talking up some Bill Aryers video from 2002.

Perspective is not high on their agenda.

Dee

 

[billydkid]

what did I tell you? McCain's current ad consists not only of Biden's words, but of Biden himself speaking them. I don't care how you cut it, it was incredibly stupid.

 

[TheDeeMan]

True. But the Dow is going to OPEN at 550 pints down and that's just because that's the lowest point it can start at. If it weren't it would be lower. Meaning? We're about to take it in the ass for yet another day. Translation? No money in your pocket because of an economy that's swirling the bowel trumps Biden's stuipdity.

Obama knows that Colin Powell's endorsement and his press conference the other day with his military advisors did more to help him then Biden did to hurt him. That's why he did it.

Dee

 

[leftysergeant]

Of course somebody is going to test Obama. They do it to every president.

It will take years to correct the damage that the GOP did to our defenses overe the last 28 years. Difference is that Obama, being a bit brighter than any of the fools who have held the opffice in the last 28 years, is more likely to make the right decision to respond to the challenge.

If McCain became president, he would be tested, too. McCain, being a sociopath and a bit senile would probably bomb Iran to punish Pakistan for not helping us catch ObL.

I don't see Biden's remarks as being any more than "It will get worse before it gets better."

It won't get better after being worse if it gets worse on the watch of an imbecile.

 

[billydkid]

Of course somebody is going to test Obama. They do it to every president.

It will take years to correct the damage that the GOP did to our defenses overe the last 28 years. Difference is that Obama, being a bit brighter than any of the fools who have held the opffice in the last 28 years, is more likely to make the right decision to respond to the challenge.

If McCain became president, he would be tested, too. McCain, being a sociopath and a bit senile would probably bomb Iran to punish Pakistan for not helping us catch ObL.

I don't see Biden's remarks as being any more than "It will get worse before it gets better."

It won't get better after being worse if it gets worse on the watch of an imbecile.

But it's not about how bad Biden's remarks actually are, it's about the fact that he pointlessly gave McCain ammo and that is just stupid and the proof of it that McCain took the audio of Biden's speech and that became the commercial. I don't care, when the opposing campaign can play your own speech back alone and use that to damn you, that is just stupid.

 

[normdoering]

Did you hear his last big gaff? McCain doesn't need advisors. All he needs to do is listen to Biden and then repeat it back.

And yet, in spite of all the gaffes Joe the senator supposedly makes, Obama's poll numbers keep going up and John the candidates keep going down. Maybe Joe the senator is even smarter than he often looks and sounds and his gaffes aren't all that gaffy:

http://normdoering.blogspot.com/2008/10/joe-bidens-gaffes.html

When you're as far behind as McCain is, you've got nothing left but Biden's crumbs and the attempt to make this mole hill into a mountain. Alas, the crumbs Biden's been giving them might have a bit of rat poison hidden inside.

McCain said we don't want a "president who invites testing" and then went on to claim that he had already been tested because he was on board the USS Enterprise off of Cuba when America came close to nuclear war. Then he said a noun, a verb, and "Joe the plumber." I fail to see how McCain was tested by sitting on an aircraft carrier off of Cuba. And just bringing up images of Kennedy and the cold war also brings up the images from Kubrick's movie, Dr. Strangelove and I recall how much McCain sounds like one of the characters in that movie.

It's strange, all these gaffes that Joe the senator is supposedly making only make me respect and admire the man more than I did before. Every time the right-wing pundits call attention to one of them, my first thought is usually: "that's it, that's all you've got against this guy?" And then I think of all the gaffes I'd probably be making if I were in his shoes.

Joe the senator sometimes gets his facts wrong, but he doesn't get important and relevant facts wrong, like when McCain mixed up Sunni and Shiite. I don't think he gets policy too wrong, not like McCain advocating deregulation days before the Wallstreet meltdown and about a month before Greenspan admits that the philosophy behind deregulation is flawed. And political gaffes, that's when you offend some interest group perceived to be important to your success, well nothing Biden has said was as bad as Obama's "they're bitter and clinging to their guns and religion" line.

None of these guys are gaffe free, but Biden's gaffe's have been the mildest of all of them. The worst they do is make him sound too honest for his own good.

 

[billydkid]

Isn't this just Straight Talk? Where's the gaffe?

Honestly, Biden consistently comes across to me as the guy McCain is trying to be.

I know what you are saying, but I don't think you are understanding what I am saying. This is politics. Truth is secondary. The opposition campaign is going to scrutinized everything you say looking for something to use against you. Being courageous and honest is fine - but it has never gotten anyone elected. It may and probably will amount to nothing in terms of the result of the election. If the other campaign can use your words verbatim in their campaign ad it's a gaffe.