Merged "Iron-rich spheres" - scienctific explanation?

alienentity said:
Why is this discussion still going on?
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In response to my last post there were 16 posts making the same points that I had already responded to.

"Most of the iron microspheres created during the fire would leave the building with the smoke" is too difficult a concept for folks here to comprehend.
 
Christopher7 said:
"Most of the iron microspheres created during the fire would leave the building with the smoke" is too difficult a concept for folks here to comprehend.
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And apparently impossible for you to support with anything but mindless repetition of bald assertion...
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Christopher7 said:
In response to my last post there were 16 posts making the same points that I had already responded to.

"Most of the iron microspheres created during the fire would leave the building with the smoke" is too difficult a concept for folks here to comprehend.
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Did any of those microspheres ever come down again?
 
Christopher7 said:
"Most of the iron microspheres created during the fire would leave the building with the smoke" is too difficult a concept for folks here to comprehend.
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But your magical thermite residue, even though it is surrounded by hot gases far hotter than those produced by the combustion of Calss A fuels, magically remains in the building.

Got it.:rolleyes:
 
leftysergeant said:
But your magical thermite residue, even though it is surrounded by hot gases far hotter than those produced by the combustion of Calss A fuels, magically remains in the building.

Got it.:rolleyes:
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Plus the building isn't really a chimney, the airflow of the gases gets redirected, possibly several times, by walls, floors, doors, structural members, furniture and debris before escaping.
 
Christopher7 said:
In response to my last post there were 16 posts making the same points that I had already responded to.

"Most of the iron microspheres created during the fire would leave the building with the smoke" is too difficult a concept for folks here to comprehend.
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Citation needed, or a calculation at the least, accounting for any known variables, and citing where you got your figures.

Or, you could just stop. Your choice.....
 
C7 said:
"Most of the iron microspheres created during the fire would leave the building with the smoke" is too difficult a concept for folks here to comprehend.
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TSR said:
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And apparently impossible for you to support with anything but mindless repetition of bald assertion...
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Smoke carries away particulate matter - mindless speculation?

Smoke IS particulate matter. :rolleyes:

tsig said:
Did any of those microspheres ever come down again?
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Eventually. First the larger/heavier ones and then the smaller/lighter ones. That you can't figure this out for yourself is the root of the problem we seem to be having. ;)

TFC said:
Citation needed
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ETA: Smoke
1. The vaporous system made up of small particles of carbonaceous matter in the air, resulting mainly from the burning of organic material, such as wood or coal.
2. A suspension of fine solid or liquid particles in a gaseous medium.
3. A cloud of fine particles.


Iron microspheres are very small to ultra fine particles.
 
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leftysergeant said:
But your magical thermite residue, even though it is surrounded by hot gases far hotter than those produced by the combustion of Calss A fuels, magically remains in the building.
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The explosions put the fires out by pulverizing what was burning and mixing it with a lot of noncombustible material. The iron microspheres mixed with and became part of the dust.
 
Christopher7 said:
The explosions put the fires out by pulverizing what was burning and mixing it with a lot of noncombustible material. The iron microspheres mixed with and became part of the dust.
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And yet, the aluminum oxide particles that were produced at the same moment in the same places in the same thermitic reaction all escaped and disappeared, and did not mix with and become part of the dust.

Incredible!

As in, not at all credible. Sorry, doesn't make sense, not even as the speculative coulda-happened guess that it is.

But even if that speculation did make sense, there's no need for it any more. The iron-rich spheres are now fully explained. They were produced by a source that's known to produce iron-rich spheres, and which is known to have been taking place at ground zero. That source is burning of miscellaneous materials.

Respectfully,
Myriad
 
Christopher7 said:
The explosions put the fires out by pulverizing what was burning and mixing it with a lot of noncombustible material. The iron microspheres mixed with and became part of the dust.
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I thought they went up the chimney.:confused:
 
tsig said:
I thought they went up the chimney.:confused:
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No no no no no. You're not following. All the iron microspheres that we'd expect to find, because they're found after every class A fire, from incinerator fires to ancient cooking fires at archaeological sites, disappeared up the chimney. The ones we do find, even though they're exactly the same as the ones that are mysteriously missing, were produced in an entirely different way by magic thermite.

In an odd coincidence, while I was typing this post, some silent invisible ninjas snuck into my kitchen (ten feet away and in broad daylight), stole all my dishes, and replaced them with identical duplicates. I know this because my dishes are suspiciously exactly the same as they used to be.

Yet, I predict the police will do nothing. They must be in on it.

Respectfully,
Myriad
 
Christopher7 said:
Smoke carries away particulate matter - mindless speculation?

Smoke IS particulate matter. :rolleyes:

Eventually. First the larger/heavier ones and then the smaller/lighter ones. That you can't figure this out for yourself is the root of the problem we seem to be having. ;)

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ETA: Smoke
1. The vaporous system made up of small particles of carbonaceous matter in the air, resulting mainly from the burning of organic material, such as wood or coal.
2. A suspension of fine solid or liquid particles in a gaseous medium.
3. A cloud of fine particles.


Iron microspheres are very small to ultra fine particles.
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Lots of horse **** and an Ad Hom attack. Awesome.

So, how can you make a statement of FACT with NOTHING to back it up?

Now, run along and go find some sources for this claim.

"Most of the iron microspheres created during the fire would leave the building with the smoke"

PS: You do realize that the majority of smoke is carbon, right?
 
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Christopher7 said:
The explosions put the fires out by pulverizing what was burning and mixing it with a lot of noncombustible material. The iron microspheres mixed with and became part of the dust.
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Okay, so the explosions...stopped the fires?

I'm no fireman, but I don't think that's physically likely. Tri, Lefty, you're on deck.
 
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Christopher7 said:
The explosions put the fires out by pulverizing what was burning and mixing it with a lot of noncombustible material. The iron microspheres mixed with and became part of the dust.
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So all those people who said that the pile burned for a month were lying...?
 
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