Mycroft
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6095119/
I'm sure bombing their own churches has military value in resisting US occupation.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6095119/
I'm sure bombing their own churches has military value in resisting US occupation.
a_unique_person
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"Bring em on"
Grammatron
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a_unique_person said:
The dead people thank you for your snappy response at a person who wouldn't even read it.
a_unique_person
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Grammatron said:
Not my snappy response, Dubya's request that these things happen.
The Fool
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Got anything to back up this claim? The current fighting in Iraq is a civil war for control of Iraq. The US army is the least of thier concerns The United states of America and the coalition of the willing do not control Iraq now and never will. Does it look like a place under someones control?Mycroft said:
We have largely eliminated the regime that controlled Iraq and now its just a matter of who is going to take thier place. Once again we will probably have a hand in deciding which side wins....I'd put money on the winners being much the same as Saddams mob, except they will be able to call thier enemies the magic word "terrorist" so you will have to support them for a while until the next "regime change"...... here we go again.........
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Remember Yugoslavia?
It took the power and weapons and terror of the USSR to keep the three factions, Orthodox, Catholics and Moslems from going at each other's throats. Likewise it took the same from Sadam's goons to keep the Moslems, both forms Shia and Sunni, and the Kurds from having a free-for-all, and the relatively small population of Christians in Iraq is, and will remain, a sideshow.
The US is the only power able to come even close to keeping the main opponents and seekers of national dominance apart now that the Hussein bunch is out of office. Bush is not in any form or fashion a student of history, except for the Biblical, distorted version thereof, and I said at the time, going into Iraq, as laudable an endeavor as it is, is a sad mistake. That is true even though the goal of setting up a functioning democracy is sincere and good, forcing such a radical change from outside is impossible. They are not any more prepared for a democracy than the former Soviet Union was when communism fell of its own weight and corruption.
We will not be able to keep the peace for an extended time and just as I predicted when it happened, the invasion of Iraq, even though it may or may not have had an honorable intent, is biting King George II in the place where it hurts him the most, his chance for reelection. With that said, Kerry is yet another disaster waiting for the voters of this great nation to inflict it upon themselves.
If Kerry is elected, may have to take advantage of my Native Cherokee blood and move back into the mountains of North Carolina and the Sovereign Cherokee Nation and isolate myself from TV and the mass media that will on occasion show his ugly face and Kennedy-aping hairdo, or better still hairdon’t.
It took the power and weapons and terror of the USSR to keep the three factions, Orthodox, Catholics and Moslems from going at each other's throats. Likewise it took the same from Sadam's goons to keep the Moslems, both forms Shia and Sunni, and the Kurds from having a free-for-all, and the relatively small population of Christians in Iraq is, and will remain, a sideshow.
The US is the only power able to come even close to keeping the main opponents and seekers of national dominance apart now that the Hussein bunch is out of office. Bush is not in any form or fashion a student of history, except for the Biblical, distorted version thereof, and I said at the time, going into Iraq, as laudable an endeavor as it is, is a sad mistake. That is true even though the goal of setting up a functioning democracy is sincere and good, forcing such a radical change from outside is impossible. They are not any more prepared for a democracy than the former Soviet Union was when communism fell of its own weight and corruption.
We will not be able to keep the peace for an extended time and just as I predicted when it happened, the invasion of Iraq, even though it may or may not have had an honorable intent, is biting King George II in the place where it hurts him the most, his chance for reelection. With that said, Kerry is yet another disaster waiting for the voters of this great nation to inflict it upon themselves.
If Kerry is elected, may have to take advantage of my Native Cherokee blood and move back into the mountains of North Carolina and the Sovereign Cherokee Nation and isolate myself from TV and the mass media that will on occasion show his ugly face and Kennedy-aping hairdo, or better still hairdon’t.
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Re: Re: Re: Iraqi chruches targeted
Did you read your own link?
>Pulls out clue-spoon, opens jar of baby-clue<
Now open wiiiide! Here comes the clue plane to make a landing!
Have you figured it out yet?
Mycroft said:
Did you read your own link?
>Pulls out clue-spoon, opens jar of baby-clue<
Now open wiiiide! Here comes the clue plane to make a landing!
Have you figured it out yet?
CSSMariner
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geni said:
It's just history son, just history. As is said, those who do not study it are doomed to repeat it, ad infinitum.
Religion is just another excuse. Bombing churches is a laudable thing as long as it is done by one version of true-believers against another. Sorta' like the mob, as long as one gangster kills another ganster, society benefits in the end.
Mycroft
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geni said:
Who?
Those who had posted in this thread at the time you wrote that were myself, Fool, AUP, CSSMariner and Grammatron. None of these writers said anything about "clash of civerlisations (sic)"
Is this another one of those things where you see what you expect to see and not what's actually there?
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Re: Re: Re: Iraqi chruches targeted
Just go back to sleep Mycroft, its because they are Muslim....thats just what they do.....Please don't start getting involved in civil war politics, you much prefer simpler explanations....stick with the muslim line.Mycroft said:
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Iraqi chruches targeted
That might be the opinion of Mr Manifesto, who quoted the part of the article that said Iraq's Christian community is growing increasing anxious at the rise of Islamic fundamentalism. Personally I'm more interested in your theory that the bombing of these churches helps someone take control of Iraq.
Who do you think it helps and how?
The Fool said:
That might be the opinion of Mr Manifesto, who quoted the part of the article that said Iraq's Christian community is growing increasing anxious at the rise of Islamic fundamentalism. Personally I'm more interested in your theory that the bombing of these churches helps someone take control of Iraq.
Who do you think it helps and how?
CSSMariner said:
Yes I do and no it didn't.
Yugoslavia under Tito was not in any way controlled by the USSR despite the fact that it was indeed a socialist state.
Tito took a great deal of care to balance the power of the various ethnic groups in Yugoslavia and did so quite successfully without using too much violence.......all things considered.
The place only really fell apart years after his death when Milosovic tried to form an ethnically pure Serbian state by ethnicly cleansing non serbs from their homes.
Carry on
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