Iran War in Prophecy

[jsfisher]

So, where are we now?

Davidjayjordan loudly and repeatedly predicted a USA war with Iran triggered by the capture of the British sailors. We can quibble whether it qualified as a prophecy or not (and it doesn't matter--there are other examples of his failed prophecies), but either way, the event it not come to pass.

Davidjayjordan's prediction powers have proved lacking again. I think that is a fact all but one of us can accept.

What is left to consider in this thread, then?

 

[Foster Zygote]

We can quibble whether it qualified as a prophecy or not...

Djj has certainly quibbled about it. But then his choice for the title for this thread was rather unfortunate for him.

What is left to consider in this thread, then?

Who's kitty is the cutest. This is Mini.

 

[Cosmo]

What is left to consider in this thread, then?

Mad libs?

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

Who's kitty is the cutest. This is Mini.

Noooo! This is Mini (short for Minerva):

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

And here she is playing with her brother Mac:

 

[Davidjayjordan]

The rules state specially that posters are to post appropriately.

Your kitten violate these rules and yet the moderators do nothing. darat wanted civil high class discussion not your confessions that you have lost the debate.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

To show humor with a purpose and a message and a meaning..... How about ....

Walk Through the Woods



An atheist was taking a walk through the woods. "What majestic trees! What powerful rivers! What beautiful animals!" he said to himself.

[FONT=comic sans
ms]As he continued walking alongside the river he heard a rustling in the bushes. Turning to look, he saw a 7 foot grizzly charging towards him. He ran as fast as he could up the path. Looking over his shoulder he saw that the bear was closing in on him. His heart was pumping frantically and he tried to run even faster. He tripped and fell on the ground. He rolled over to pick himself up but saw the bear raising his paw to take a swipe at him. [/FONT]

At that instant the atheist cried out: "Oh my God... Time stopped. The bear froze. The forest was silent. It was then that a bright light shone upon the man and a voice came out of the sky saying "You deny my existence for all of these years, teach others I don't exist, and even credit creation to a cosmic accident. You expect me to help you out of this predicament? Am I to count you as a believer?"

The atheist looked directly into the light, "It would be hypocritical of me to suddenly ask you to treat me as a Christian now, but perhaps, could you make the BEAR a Christian?"

"Very well," said the voice. The light went out. And the sounds of the forest resumed. And then the bear lowered his paw, bowed his head and spoke: "Lord, bless this food which I am about to receive and for which I am truly thankful.

Amen."

 

[Davidjayjordan]

So, where are we now?

Davidjayjordan loudly and repeatedly predicted a USA war with Iran triggered by the capture of the British sailors. We can quibble whether it qualified as a prophecy or not (and it doesn't matter--there are other examples of his failed prophecies), but either way, the event it not come to pass.

Davidjayjordan's prediction powers have proved lacking again. I think that is a fact all but one of us can accept.

What is left to consider in this thread, then?

You can consider ALL of prophecy rather than your lack of knowledge about the future.

It is a huge field, I wish the moderators wouldn;t keep deleting my new topics and we could THEN discuss earthquakes or the coming plagues, and especially the American aggression that will be stopped by an even more vile government...Russia. For out of her comes the Anti-Christ.

But we did discuss how the next war in Iran will be started by an excuse, a set up, a conspiracy that escalates everything into a quick war attack, that isn't over instantly like the last aggressions... Afghanistan and Iraq.

The WAR in Iran has to be settled for the whole world to continue on.... it becomes a world wide issue that takes the PRINCE OF THE COVENANT to settle and figure out.

For as Bjorn has mentioned there is a probablity for war in Iran, but to have it settled by a ten nation agreement makes the odds then astronomical.... and hence should finnally get you into realising that the Lord's prophecy shall be fulfilled. And when the Covenant gets signed in 2009 as mentioned then you may remember that the Lord already tiold you so, and maybe then a few of you will wake up. And when the 3rd temple on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem gets established with sacrificing before it, THEN a few more of you will make note and wish you had studied more...... especially when it happens in the time frame mentioned.

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

The WAR in Iran has to be settled for the whole world to continue on....

Did I miss a headline with all the coverage of the tragedy at Virginia Tech? Last I heard, there wasn't a war in Iran.

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

DJJ, the kitten photos are there because attempting to have a discussion with you is futile. You don't read what is addressed to you. You contradict yourself. You make wild claims with no evidence whatsoever.

I'm still thinking about your assertion that the "U.S./Britain and Israel" have been planning a war in Iran for years. I pointed out that I'm a citizen of the U.S., and I have never planned any war. Then you said just our leaders. (I am an active participant in my government by the way--we still don't have a monarchy.) I pointed out several examples of our leaders (Kucinich, for example) who certainly have not been planning a war, and asked you for proof that ANY of them have. You then said it was "the rich and powerful". Again--all rich and powerful people in these 3 countries? What about all those rich and powerful people who have actively spoken out against war? What possible evidence do you have?

Or will you admit that this is nothing but a wild conjecture--an opinion at best?

 

[dglas]

When we consider ALL of "end is nigh" prophesy, including yours, Djj, we come to the inescapable conclusion that prophesy as a means to knowledge, is an abject, unequivocal failure. Just like your abject, unequivocal failure to address any of the issues brought before you, and just like your abject, unequivocal failure to let reality intrude on your private, psychopathic, little, fantasy world.

Your trite little wall of nonsense is not bludgeoning anyone into submission. Your "victories," as you like to think of them, have no reflection in the real world, just like your way of thinking makes no reference to the real world. Repeating the same dreck louder and in gaudier colours doesn't make it any more rational; it just makes you appear more frantic and desperate.

Philosophers have a word for thinking like yours that allows for no external referents. That word is "meaningless." It is one of the most profound insults a philosopher can level. Your thinking is meaningless, Djj. It has no connection to, nor bearing on, reality.

You are, effectively, playing with yourself in the corner. You'd like all of humanity to join you, because you think that would legitimize what you do. But humanity is busy getting on with the business of living - building, growing, working towards a future. And it is busy ignoring you and your ilk, and rightfully so.

You have repeatedly proven that you have nothing to offer. There is no reason to believe your nonsense and no reason to want to believe it. It offers us nothing (I gave you the opportunity to offer something and, surprise, surprise, you failed).

 

[jsfisher]

Walk Through the Woods

An atheist and a false prophet were walking through the woods when the atheist noticed ahead was a particularly hungry and mean-looking grizzly. The false prophet eventually noticed, too, then added it to the many reasons why the war with Sri Lanka was inevitable and why atheists all had bad breath.

The bear, too, took notice of the two unfortunate hikers. It started charging in their direction, intend on dinner.

The atheist slipped off his hiking boots as quickly as he could, and then donned a pair of sneakers he'd pulled from his backpack.

"Silly atheist!! You act so foolishly. Even with running shoes you cannot outrun a grizzly. You are doomed for it is written in the Great Wisdom of David..." spouted the false prophet followed by multiple passages misquoted from the Bible.

"Prepare yourself for reality," the atheist piped back. "It is not the bear I need to outrun."

 

[Davidjayjordan]

DJJ, the kitten photos are there because attempting to have a discussion with you is futile. You don't read what is addressed to you. You contradict yourself. You make wild claims with no evidence whatsoever.

I'm still thinking about your assertion that the "U.S./Britain and Israel" have been planning a war in Iran for years. I pointed out that I'm a citizen of the U.S., and I have never planned any war. Then you said just our leaders. (I am an active participant in my government by the way--we still don't have a monarchy.) I pointed out several examples of our leaders (Kucinich, for example) who certainly have not been planning a war, and asked you for proof that ANY of them have. You then said it was "the rich and powerful". Again--all rich and powerful people in these 3 countries? What about all those rich and powerful people who have actively spoken out against war? What possible evidence do you have?

Or will you admit that this is nothing but a wild conjecture--an opinion at best?

No Juggler, the kittens are proof that you have lost integrity and are frustrated because you are losing onjectivity and focus and therefore become foolish. It is against the rules, but the moderators allow you to be foolish and break the rules of appropriateness.

Notice how they did NOT warn you for violating the rules.

Thinking you are the government and there are no conspiracies of the rich and powerful just shows how truly guilliable and naive you truly are JUGGLER.

Do read about the Illumuniati and the truths in the Bible. Either way you come to the same conclusion rather than being a deny-er.

But that takes work and honesty.

Start now Juggler, either from a spiritual viewpoint or from a current events perspective. The truths are there unless you want to believe the lies.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

False attribution removed.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Darat

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Douglas, douglas, douglas

When we consider ALL of "end is nigh" prophesy, including yours, Djj, we come to the inescapable conclusion that prophesy as a means to knowledge, is an abject, unequivocal failure. (Not the Lord's because none of His have ever failed. Show one or be deemed a fasle prophet. State your proof of which one failed or why you misinterpreted it, And START with why the Lord did not fulfill all the Messianic prophecies. Do this NOW)

Just like your abject, unequivocal failure to address any of the issues brought before you, and just like your abject, unequivocal failure to let reality intrude on your private, psychopathic, little, fantasy world. (That's a violation of the rules to say I live in a pychopathetic world. Even though surekly you shall be protected by the moderators)

Your trite little wall of nonsense is not bludgeoning anyone into submission. (But truths do come into peoples minds in the future when prophecies get fuifilled) Your "victories," as you like to think of them, have no reflection in the real world, just like your way of thinking makes no reference to the real world. (Prophecies concern the real world, real countries, real timelines, real sins, and real changes. It is the false prophets of peace and safety that try to imagine their ongoing comforts never disappearing)

Repeating the same dreck louder and in gaudier colours doesn't make it any more rational; it just makes you appear more frantic and desperate. (No the kittens and recipes show your shallowness, not mine. I have about 120 articles on different aspects of prophecy, and yet you can barely understand the principles of the very basic concepts. You have eyes to see, but see not)

Philosophers have a word for thinking like yours that allows for no external referents. That word is "meaningless." It is one of the most profound insults a philosopher can level. Your thinking is meaningless, Djj. It has no connection to, nor bearing on, reality. ((SEE above story about the athiest flleing reality. Study and compare to your own life))

You are, effectively, playing with yourself in the corner. You'd like all of humanity to join you, because you think that would legitimize what you do. ((No being a missionary is already well established as valid)) But humanity is busy getting on with the business of living - building, growing, working towards a future. And it is busy ignoring you and your ilk, and rightfully so. (Theres that ilk word pointed at me again, as you slanders love to say such, and do know that the moderators will protect you))

You have repeatedly proven that you have nothing to offer. There is no reason to believe your nonsense and no reason to want to believe it. It offers us nothing I gave you the opportunity to offer something and, surprise, surprise, you failed.

Then away with you, and put me on IGNORE. Show some respect for this thread, and let others progress or discern my untruths and leave on their own. Have faith in other peoples discernment and leave. Thanks hioping you learn to progress rather than just accuse. Hoping you test out your theories rather than just post them. I love the real world and real people. Got to fly...))

David

 

[Paulhoff]

He talks about reality and then rambles on about a so-called god that can’t get anything right. He leaves out 13.7 billion years for the universe, 4.5 billion years for the sun and 4.3 billion years for the earth. There are fossil records that are thousands of feet thick showing the vast diversity of life on just this one world and how it has changed. He leaves out the enormous size of the universe, the almost unlimited stars and other worlds out there.

He does like to talk about doom and gloom, his so-called god is good for that one must admit. It reminds me of the hypochondriac’s tombstone, “See I told you I was sick”.

Paul

 

[Foster Zygote]

The rules state specially that posters are to post appropriately.

Your kitten violate these rules and yet the moderators do nothing. darat wanted civil high class discussion not your confessions that you have lost the debate.

Take that!

 

[Foster Zygote]

OK David, let's show some respect for the subject of this thread: Let's discuss your credentials as a prophet. How can you claim to make a prophecy of any kind when you have already shown yourself to be a false prophet? The Bible verses you quoted did not say "If a prophet's predictions fail let him re-check his math and try again". They did not say "If a prophet fails then let him try best three out of four". They say "If a prophet fails then he is a false prophet period". You made a prophecy time-line that failed. You couldn't admit your failure so you quietly altered the dates to move the whole time-line into the future. How do you defend this action? You can close your eyes, stick your fingers in your ears and yell "Nyanyanyanyanya!" all you want. Everyone else can clearly see that you have failed as a prophet.

 

[Cosmo]

No Juggler, the kittens are proof that you have lost integrity and are frustrated because you are losing onjectivity and focus and therefore become foolish. It is against the rules, but the moderators allow you to be foolish and break the rules of appropriateness.

Notice how they did NOT warn you for violating the rules.

It is plainly obvious that you have absolutely no idea what the rules of this forum are. You would do well to familiarize yourself with them.

The moderators cannot, and will not enforce rules that exist only in your head.

 

[Tirdun]

Notice how they did NOT warn you for violating the rules.

Just re-checked, there is no such rule. There was some serious discussion on the Conspiracy Thread about enforcing the Civility rules due to hot tempers, but the kittens are a time-honored sign of a dying thread.

Thinking you are the government and there are no conspiracies of the rich and powerful just shows how truly guilliable and naive you truly are JUGGLER.

To suggest a conspiracy exists somewhere requires some kind of evidence. I doubt anyone here would stand up and claim there were no conspiracies out there, rich participants or otherwise, but you've gone a few steps beyond then demanded that we either accept your word for it or stay quiet. So, DAVIDJAYJORDAN, show us something new and tangible.

Do read about the Illumuniati and the truths in the Bible. Either way you come to the same conclusion rather than being a deny-er.

I have to wonder how all powerful the Illuminati are if they let books exist concerning their inner workings, not that you've provided anything but vague ideas and overly numerical timelines. Your web site is full of a lot of noise and very little signal and defies any attempt at understanding.

As for the Bible, a number of us have read it. I've personally read it (and other Holy books) several times, including varied translations and expert opinions and commentary. As I lack the credentials and time to earn those credentials, I take the expert opinions seriously, especially when they agree. None of the best and brightest in those fields have come to the same conclusions you have.

The truths are there unless you want to believe the lies.

Prophetic truths that you can't seem to line up square with current events. Conflict in the Middle East has been the default state of affairs for a few thousand years. I even seem to recall something about the Romans putting down Jewish rebellions. Further, the end times have been all but nigh for centuries. Just ask the Millerites or Branch Dividians or Adventists or Jehovah's Witnesses. They all loved their numerology, too, which proves nothing but the wonders of coincidence and the lure of numerology.

Just like dowsers explaining all the complicated and mystic ley lines behind their stick-waving, none of it amounts to anything more than noise until you produce something. We're not really interested in HOW it works until you can show THAT it works.