Iran War in Prophecy

[hellaeon]

DJJ, I never realised you were so loved by so many others.

Let me guess, 5 years ago before the middle east issues arose to the fore I bet you were predicting a war between USA and China?

Is this correct DJJ? Your homosexual, someone who fails at prophecy and someone who is a devout jesus freak?

If this is true, why are you calling me/us the sinners?

 

[hellaeon]

... False skeptics will howl when they hear the term Illuminati, 3000 club, and all those other names of their organizations, umbrella groups etc... but as the Good Lord said, the other side has been given this world, and will be allowed to take it totally by 2012, for three and a half years....

20 years back wasn't it 1999 the world was going to implode under Gods mighty hand

DJJ your once again, 100% wrong.

Cheers

 

[dglas]

So, DJJ, do you live for the ecstatic "Wow! I was right!" moment that just never seems to come? Tell me, does a little part of you die every time one of the prophesies of universal doom, despair, suffering and death fail to occur, or do you just rationalize your way around them ...every!...single!...time! in eager anticipation of the next opportunity to get ready for the sanctimonious "See! I told you so!" moment.

(((And good to hear from you tooo . Nice introduction)))

It seemed the appropriate thing, given the topic at hand.

Will you be awash in rapture-ready, orgasmic, self-congratulatory glee if you actually get to see billions of people die?

(((NO a bttter world where love rules will BE.. But if you love this present hell on Earth, you better cling tightly to it... for it will get worse)))

If you have your way, right?
This isn't hell on Earth, whatever that is supposed to mean. This is our life, our place and our time. We decide if it gets better or worse, and we make it how we decide to make it. There are those who see this as an active enterprise, something we can take part in and influence for the better. Those who speak of potential and efficacy. People like me.

And then there are those who run and hide behind fantasy, awaiting a time of recogning when they'll be recogned better than everyone else. No evidence; no reason to posit this, except simple, catastrophic self-indulgence. people like you.

I don't see any love in your view at all. All I see is your hatred of people.

Will that be a moment of ecstatic joy for you? Is that the be-all and end-all of your being and existence? Is that really what you live your life for?

(((Just the opposite, as I want all wrongs righted, and all tears dried, I want justice and love and real PEACE with no oppression and no conspiracies, but then again the majority HERE, think there are no conspiracies, and that the rich and pwoerful love them and always tell them the truth)))

Even if it were true "the majority HERE, think there are no conspiracies, and that the rich and powerful love them and always tell them the truth" it still would not begin to match your naivete (http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/naive) in placing your trust, and a malicious humanity-hating trust at that, in fluffy nonsense and cults of helplessness.

Is that all you have to offer?

(((Nope the solution, the peaceMAKER ... JESUS. Do you have a btter one ?)

Why, yes, I do. We can do it ourselves; leave aside the fluffy nonsense of wishful thinking and get on with the business of living so that we create a better world, because no one is going to do it for us, no matter how hard you wish. But only the profoundly ridiculous would suggest we should just wait for some imaginary friend to sort everything out for us, especially if their only contribution is sactimonious recrimination and egoistic self-justification.

To hell with the past. That was then; this is now.
Time to look to the future.

Honestly, I wonder what it's like to live from this end-o'-the-worldtm to that end-o'-the-worldtm. Do you feel cheated? Or are you attracted to the never-ending self-righteousness of never being taken seriously? Do you imagine that, in some vague way, this makes you superior - more in tune with a non-existent divine - than the rest of us mere humans, you know the ones you so earnestly wish to see dead?

(((Alive and thinking and progressing is what is hoped for, but all have to choose and we are all equal with Him, because none can compare to Him.... so lightne up and just learn some real prophecy and get your head together.... and do count to maybe twenty before posting again, or have a cold shower before writing. Thanks)))

Progressing? Progressing towards what? The end?

Hope? To hell with hope. It takes work, determination and clarity to avoid seeking vague, non-existent, metaphysical quick-fixes and self-congratulatory justifications. To keep the eye firmly fixed on target: the future. To stay awake. To learn to understand what we can affect and how. Kissing beads and shaking rattles got us absolutely nowhere. Thousands of years of it. Nowhere.

We did it your way and did nothing but wallow in a quagmire of superstition, hatred and poverty, accomplishing nothing. Your way is the past. We do have something to learn from it, this is true. That something is: never again!

Inquiring minds want to know...

(((Then a true skeptic and inquiring mind should study and research and consider...)))

Let me see if I have this straight. *You* are going to tell *me* what constitutes a real skeptic. Oh please, do enlighten me...

Let's see, we can list all the cases of this or that miscellaneous, anonymous prophesy of doom, death and destruction. With me so far? Let's do the research by asking a simple question. In all the untold examples of prophetic doom, how many times have they come true? Is that question understandable? Zero. Is that answer contested? So, let's consider the the probability of yet another apocalyptic prophesy coming true, based on the past success of such prophetic nonsense. Well, I guess we'd better not sell everything yet....

Of course, the problem is not in the content of the prophesies. It is the idea of prophesy itself and the basis for it. Of course it is not really to the point to get into this with you, because you aren't an honest believer. You are a user. This stuff gets you high (or so you think) so you use it to act superior. Sadly, it isn't working. No one is convinced, but you.

Of course, you have sold. You sold your humanity for despair. And then you tried to change it to suit your petty whims; the same person who attempts to rewrite traditional morality in order to justify your descent into sin. You are an ethical egoist. Most of your ilk are, really.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

You have issues Dglas, but I certainly can't help you out of them.

When people fall into a SESSKAPOOL, in refernce to their home province of Saskatchewan in Canada, and then state that life is Here and Now and all we have, it seems you are not so happy with your plight in your SESS POOL.

So learn to be consistant and honest with yourself, and then you can start to learn prophecy.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

O.K. back to the British captives that were sent into Iranuian waters to be captured, as inflatables don;t wander away from their own protective vessels. It was a set up and these 15 were withdrawn from so they would be captured....

Blair wants them back, and A... says they are safe... so where do they get their nice safe detention... probably around the different nuclear sites , so that America will be tempted not to blow them up when they nuke them into oblivion.

I think the Arabs did this once before..

As for A, he's being manipulated by the religious on his side to... something about the 12th Imman... prophecy, meaning he will try to fulfill his supposed destiny by starting a war.

So both religious sides will have positioned themselves and will have their supposed religious basis for going to war... all with excuses, and then the war will be on.

Sorry you status quo fellows, and you false prophets of peace and safety, your prophecies of peace and no war shall vanish...and we ALL had better smarten up to the cons of the governments and listen a whole lot more to the solutions of the Lord.

Your choices, your responsibilities.

 

[RandFan]

Sorry you status quo fellows, and you false prophets of peace and safety, your prophecies of peace and no war shall vanish...and we ALL had better smarten up to the cons of the governments and listen a whole lot more to the solutions of the Lord.

Where is this prophecy of peace? I think this is a lie. Of course we will never know because you don't answer questions.

Liar for 2000 Alex.

 

[MRC_Hans]

O.K. back to the British captives that were sent into Iranuian waters to be captured, as inflatables don;t wander away from their own protective vessels. It was a set up and these 15 were withdrawn from so they would be captured....

False skeptics make conclusions on false premises. You premise, that inflatables don't wander away from their protecctive vessels, is false. What do you think the purpose of inflatables is? Right! To go where their mother vessels cannot go. A navy inflatable has a range of dozens of nautical miles, and a speed of perhaps 40kts.

Blair wants them back, and A... says they are safe... so where do they get their nice safe detention... probably around the different nuclear sites , so that America will be tempted not to blow them up when they nuke them into oblivion.

Of course they are safe. The Iranians are not idiots. No, navy personnel is not useful as human shields. We all know that soldiers are expendable. For human shields, you need civilians.
I think the Arabs did this once before..

As for A, he's being manipulated by the religious on his side to... something about the 12th Imman... prophecy, meaning he will try to fulfill his supposed destiny by starting a war.

...could ... you stop ... speaking .... riddles?

So both religious sides will have positioned themselves and will have their supposed religious basis for going to war... all with excuses, and then the war will be on.

Sorry you status quo fellows, and you false prophets of peace and safety, your prophecies of peace and no war shall vanish...and we ALL had better smarten up to the cons of the governments and listen a whole lot more to the solutions of the Lord.

Strawman again, nobody has said that status quo would be preserved, and that there would not come a war with Iran. And your plot is illogical: If both sides wanted war now, they would need no elaborate exuses. Finally, you are contradicting yourself: "The cons of the goverment"? What happened to to the Illuminati, etc?? You earlier said that the governments were just puppets. Do try to get your story straight.

Hans

 

[Hokulele]

Where is this prophecy of peace? I think this is a lie. Of course we will never know because you don't answer questions.

Liar for 2000 Alex.

You just hit the daily double!

 

[MRC_Hans]

Oh, and I asked you some questions:

You can suggest that, but please explain the apparant lack of success for this über-government. If they already have control over all the important governments of the world, what exactly are they waiting for?



The Lord's prophecy mentions America? Could you point me to relevant scripture, please?

Especially, your take on the latter would be interesting to hear.

Hans

 

[RenaissanceBiker]

As for A, he's being manipulated by the religious on his side to... something about the 12th Imman... prophecy, meaning he will try to fulfill his supposed destiny by starting a war.

So, you have a prophesy, and Ahmadinejad has a conflicting prophesy. How should we, as true skeptics, determine whose prophesy is correct? We certainly don't want to be on the wrong side of this prophesy business. There should be some rational unbiased method of determining which prophesy we should believe.

 

[Athyrio]

You have issues Dglas, but I certainly can't help you out of them.

When people fall into a SESSKAPOOL, in refernce to their home province of Saskatchewan in Canada, and then state that life is Here and Now and all we have, it seems you are not so happy with your plight in your SESS POOL....

Better than being a Ke-lown from Kelowna.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Where is this prophecy of peace? I think this is a lie. Of course we will never know because you don't answer questions.

Liar for 2000 Alex.

Only because you happenned on a query that others should understand rand, I shall respond to you.

The prophets of peace are like Daarth's statement that nothing weill happen in Iran, for peace will come again to the region.

These types of statements are peace prophecies and are usually not given by the Lord except when he brings peace and in this case, there will be an Iranian War and not peace until the artificial PEACE COVENANT is signed.

For the Bible almost always calls these False prophets FALSE when they state that their status quo, false skeptical, non believeing shallow citizens will be given PEACE.

SEE http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/PeaceandSafetyFalseProphets.html

or look it up personnally in the Bible

http://www.blueletterbible.org/

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[Davidjayjordan]

So, you have a prophesy, and Ahmadinejad has a conflicting prophesy. How should we, as true skeptics, determine whose prophesy is correct? We certainly don't want to be on the wrong side of this prophesy business. There should be some rational unbiased method of determining which prophesy we should believe.

You go with the prophecy maker that has an established consistent verifiable record of exactness and reliability... the Lord of Lords.

Then you discern thru peronal experience rather than just straight study from an outsiders perspective what the next prophecies are going to happen and WHY..... you may not know when, but you understand the concepts and His reasoning and see the SIGNS and understand the rationale.

You don;t go by luck and chance like evolutionists do, or wait billions of years for change like evolutionists hope for, but you rationally and logically and seriously and spiritually discern words and concepts and precepts as the prophets laid down.

Then the Here and Now makes sense, and the future will unfold.

Its your choice and as always your responsibility

 

[Davidjayjordan]

False skeptics make conclusions on false premises. You premise, that inflatables don't wander away from their protecctive vessels, is false. ((Not so in border waters, you don;t go far from protection and Britian is hardly under funded....))) What do you think the purpose of inflatables is? Right! To go where their mother vessels cannot go. (((NO they are easier to use in going over to a vessel and boarding it))) A navy inflatable has a range of dozens of nautical miles, and a speed of perhaps 40kts. (((And they knew exactly where the boundary was... and pushed beyond it, otherwsie six Iranian vessels would not have been allowed to enter into Iranian waters and grab them..... without British protective ships encountering such a HUGE invasion of six ships into Iraqui waters. If Iran ha entered into Iraq waters, there would have been a confrontation, but because the British were in Iranian waters, the Iranian ships surrounded them... sheep to the sluiaghter, as military wise even King david did this when he wanted his general killed.... Its a shameful tactic that King david paid dearly for... the death of faithful uriah, because david raped his wife. Cover ups cover ups but the naive and the blinded never see past what they are meant to see and believe. they accept their governments explanations without skepticism)))



Hans

And the news battles in the media go on..... and yet remember, eventually with escalation everyone will forget about what really happenned in the BEGINNING and why...

 

[RenaissanceBiker]

You go with the prophecy maker that has an established consistent verifiable record of exactness and reliability...

Nostradamus?

 

[MRC_Hans]

And the news battles in the media go on..... and yet remember, eventually with escalation everyone will forget about what really happenned in the BEGINNING and why...

Your inability to reply in a relevant way to my post is duly noted. Shall I also add your inability to answer the question I asked earlier, and repeated?

Hans

 

[Darth Rotor]

So, you have a prophesy, and Ahmadinejad has a conflicting prophesy. How should we, as true skeptics, determine whose prophesy is correct? We certainly don't want to be on the wrong side of this prophesy business. There should be some rational unbiased method of determining which prophesy we should believe.

Maybe it gets resolved like this: if Ahmadinejad has a bigger dick, his prophesy comes true, and if DJJ has a bigger dick, his prophesy comes true. So, this all becomes a "dick measuring contest," as so many arguments and disagreements become.

DR

 

[Darth Rotor]

Only because you happenned on a query that others should understand rand, I shall respond to you.

The prophets of peace are like Daarth's statement that nothing weill happen in Iran, for peace will come again to the region.

These types of statements are peace prophecies and are usually not given by the Lord except when he brings peace and in this case, there will be an Iranian War and not peace until the artificial PEACE COVENANT is signed.

David, I want to assure you that I was not prophesizing, but rather making a prediction (which has < 100% chance to be infallible) based on my estimation of the factors in the situation. There are factors that I am unaware of, within both the Brit government and the Iranian government, that I cannot account for.

I am most certainly not engaging in prophesy. I haven't the talent for it, if anyone does.

If I had future forecasting down pat, I'd be bloody rich, as I'd have bought into Intel and MS stock instead of some real estate partnerships in about 1983, which deals went further south than a penguin when the 1986 tax code changed.

DR

 

[dglas]

You have issues Dglas, but I certainly can't help you out of them.

When people fall into a SESSKAPOOL, in refernce to their home province of Saskatchewan in Canada, and then state that life is Here and Now and all we have, it seems you are not so happy with your plight in your SESS POOL.

So learn to be consistant and honest with yourself, and then you can start to learn prophecy.

Inconsistancy? Where?
I don't think you are the one to be lecturing me on consistency and honesty.

It is, however, telling that in all that, the best you can think to reply to is my characature of Saskatoon as a sesspool. Saskatoon is rife with hatred and corruption. I will criticize it for such. I don't see the world through rose- coloured glasses, nor do I see the solutions through fantasy-enshrouded mists, however brutal, murderous and vicious those mists are. I never claimed the world couldn't be more to my liking; I claimed that it won't become such through wishful thinking.

"Learn prophesy?" What is there to learn. It is empty, based on nosense, hasn't been correct even once (not even once!) and does nothing productive. More, it turns people away from the business of living.

Prophesy is a dogma of hatred, inefficacy and death.
I'll pass.

 

[Foster Zygote]

So learn to be consistant and honest with yourself, and then you can start to learn prophecy.

Like yourself? Djj, why did you change the dates regarding your end times prophecy? If you had to alter your earlier prediction because it was incorrect then how are we to trust your current prophecy? How many strikes does a prophet get before he can be called a false prophet? Why do you ignore all posts that address the inconsistencies within your claims? Were you honest enough to revise your website with the correct distance to the moon?